Cold Open: Come On Over

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Slippers unite it's time to play. We bring the spice to your work or your day, confessions debates, and a product or two. We slip it in just for you.

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You laugh, you cringe, you welcome, welcome, welcome, everyone. We are back slipping it in with you. This is me again, and I'm back COVID free.

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This is Maddie, and this is JJ.

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Yeah, the reason we're laughing if you're tuning in and didn't wat listen to last week's episode is that Grinder came out with a collab with Christina Aguilera, and you have the option on your grinder app to change the regular notification that's pretty iconic. I mean, at least people know what it is, but now you can change it to come on over, right?

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It is the givea kids nickname.

Fall Fest Flop & Neighbor Crush

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But it works, it works for you too being COVID-free because now you can come on over in studio with us. So that's amazing. But speaking of that app, um, JJ and I put that whole concept to use this past weekend, right? We went to this shitty little festival. It was like a fall festival. It's like trying to make a name for itself. I think it's year two.

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I was gonna say, is it year one or year two?

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It felt like year one, but I think it's year two. Anyway, it felt like when we're walking around and there's like booths that are like very spread apart, so they didn't have a lot of.

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There was a theme. There was a theme.

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Uh I mean pumpkins and witches and also like I just cleaned out my closet and hung shit up on a co-hand on these racks, and I'm trying to sell it.

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Like fall cleanup.

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It felt like individual tiny little garage sales to me. In the fall. Wow.

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Yeah, yeah, it did.

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So, but anyway, what what we were doing is we would see like a handsome man that we assume was straight. A lot of times it he was because he was with his, and I'd be like, JJ, yeah, there's a come on over.

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We identify them right away. I mean, especially with like a gay adjacent, we immediately were just like, Oh, yeah, it's come on over. Yeah.

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Come on over. God, I love that.

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And JJ did a little come on over to my neighbor. Oh, yeah, one of my favorites. No. I don't think so.

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I think he's cute.

SPEAKER_01 2:39

Well, JJ, in your own words, you said. And I also said to you, I'm like, I don't, like, I don't get it. Like, from what I know, he doesn't seem like your type, and you're like, he's not my he's not.

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And that I think that that's what you know that sometimes you can start not believing it. But I think that sometimes I look, I do like me, like a little surprise of like, oh, I do find this person attractive.

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I can relate to that. Okay. Like, I mean, like on paper, you can write down what you think your type is, but then somebody out of nowhere can just like defy that.

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Yeah, I I love a fix it upper.

SPEAKER_06 3:12

Well, you're supposed to like women for who they are, not who you want to change them to be.

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Oh, well, good point.

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Yeah, good point.

SPEAKER_00 3:21

Well, but he's he's so anyway. He likes a short short run the neighbor.

The Secret Bakery & Sourdough Starter

SPEAKER_01 3:27

Oh, well, and he takes his shirt off, which is crazy to me. Really? It's yeah, okay. Let we can let's keep moving. But um, so what we ended up at the secret bakery.

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Oh my god, yes. So what while we were getting out of this amazing festival, uh, one of the things that I would tell Maddie is like, oh yeah, the secret bakery. And Lexi, that was in our episode um two episodes ago, she was the one that encouraged us to just go to a you know local bakery and get our starter. So I was like, Maddie, why don't we just ask him and see you know what we can get out of that? So we you know, we went to the secret bakery. He was the nicest. He was so nice. So nice, so nice. And uh we got he has some pumpkin bread there, so we ordered some of the pumpkin bread, and I had just asked him, I was like, Do you happen to have any starter? I did ask him, it's like, do you sell the starter? Yeah, we kind of played dumb.

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Yeah, because like it's weird, like we're it's uncharted territory for us.

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Yeah, and he he had it like right behind him. Uh so he immediately gave it to us, and he's like, Yes, like I I encouraged it, yeah.

Bread Wisdom: Senses and Instincts

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We talked for like 10 minutes, we told him about the pod. Um, we talked about Lexi. We showed pictures of the loaves she had made, and he was just very encouraging. And he told us about how the bread community is very unpretentious, yeah, and welcoming. And he's like, and just remember, at the end of the day, it's bread. It's like this, we're not like curing cancer, it's bread. And he said, uh when we started our journey, he said, I'll give you uh three pieces of advice. He said, slow down, use your senses and listen to your instincts. That's what I'm saying. So I thought that was pretty cool.

SPEAKER_06 5:10

Well, and I think it would be important to say that when you're talking about he, you're talking about the baker who is Max Leonard, who started the secret bakery out of his home, and he was a 2025 James Beard finalist for uh outstanding bakery out of the whole country. So I mean he's an amazing baker and you got an amazing starter.

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Yeah.

Nashville Trip: Songwriters & Ryman

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He was working out of his home until his stupid little neighbor reported in. Always the neighbor, the rebellious. And they shut down his secret operation. So, in quotes, you can't see me, but secret operation, which then led to like, well, let's call it a secret bakery. So they don't really do a ton of like if you were to walk by, you almost like unless you got it close and were looking in the window, you would yeah, like the equivalent of a speakeasy for a bar. And so it's it's kind of a cool little concept. So you can check him out if you'd like. It's maxbread.net.

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Uh that's a website.

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Yeah. Yeah. And has in the story and yeah, all of the things. And uh I use that starter, I fed it for the last week.

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Yes, you did.

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I Dolepa is what I named my star starter, Doe Lipa.

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Doe Lipa is looking great.

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Oh, I fed her. I made two loaves. Lexi says for the first time Baker that she's ever seen made sourdough, it's the best she's seen.

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Oh, look at that.

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And uh great reviews. Yeah. So I think we can take a couple photos or maybe a little shoot a little content and let everyone see what it tasted great.

SPEAKER_00 6:45

Yeah, and I might take on the challenge and take a little bit of your starter, and then I don't know next week because we are traveling next week, but um, maybe the following.

SPEAKER_01 6:54

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I bought all like all the little supplies you're supposed to have as a sourdough baker, so I can pack those up for you.

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I knew that you were gonna be as committed as it can be. Yeah, I commit.

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Yeah, well, as you guys were touring your fall fest and getting your starter, um, I luckily recovered from COVID just in time, literally testing negative, like two days before my flight, and I flew off to Nashville.

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Nice.

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So I had a little biscuit love in Nashville talking about sourdough.

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What does that mean?

MJ on Broadway & “Smelly Michael”

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Biscuit love biscuit Love is a Nashville biscuit shop that's like very well known. So they're very good biscuits. Um, anyway, that was my first time in Nashville. It was amazing. I loved it. Um, surprisingly, like I know most people go to Nashville and they're on Broadway going to all the honky tonks and all the celebrity bars. We only did that for a few hours one day and it was fun. But um, my favorite thing was probably we went to a place called the listening room, which is downtown Nashville, but not on Broadway. And it's where they do multiple shows a day with uh a few singer-songwriters. And the singer-songwriters are usually up-and-coming Nashville country music artists, or they are professional songwriters who've literally uh written songs for major country artists. So the day we were there, um one of the artists was Jay Brunswick, who is a famous songwriter. He's written songs for country artists like Blake Shelton and Reba McIntyre. And yeah, he's continually in like very high-up writer rooms writing songs for major artists.

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So this is kind of on your in your alley of like that show that you love, Hitmakers.

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It was. I felt like I was in like hitmakers. I mean, they weren't writing the songs in front of me, but I love when they tell a little story before they get into it. And then we went and saw a show at the Ryman, which is a famous theater in Nashville, and it's where the Grand Old Opry started. But as a theater back in like the early 1900s, I mean Houdini performed there. They had a lot of like presidents came and when they would go to Nashville, they go and speak there. There was a lot of like um activist stuff for you know um black rights and stuff in the country. They would hold stuff there. So it's this famous theater. The acoustics are amazing, it's very small. Anyway, we saw Toad the Wets Rocket, and then we learned literally days before that KT Tunstall and Vertical Horizon were opening. And I'm like, I know, I don't know Vertical Horizon, and everyone's like, you're gonna know the song. And of course, the song they ended with, which they're like, it's our most famous song. I knew every word too. Really? Yeah, yeah.

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Nice.

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And KT Tunstall, I'm like, I'm not a big black horse cherry sink, cherry song lover, and that's the only song I knew she had.

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I think you got that mixed up. Black horse cherry tree. Yeah. Well, did you say black tree, cherry wheel? Maybe I did.

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Anyway, I was like, oh, I don't know. She was just there on her own doing loops like Ed Sheeran. Like it sounded like she had a full band because she kept playing little songs and then putting him on a loop and then singing over them, and she was amazing. So, like, literally, she was my favorite of the whole night. And if you ever she comes to town, you should go see her. She puts on a great, great show.

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Serena Ryder. Oh my god. We love like singer songwriters. I'm a big fan of. I know you have been as well. Yeah, and I'll say Nashville for me is a always been one of my top five cities.

SPEAKER_00 10:46

I will oh, I would never forget the trip that we had. We we we went to Nashville with your dad and your stepmom, and we meet that we met them there. Orland was there, yeah.

Taylor’s New Album: Lyrics & Lore

SPEAKER_01 10:58

Well, okay, so transition to another top five city of mine, New York City, which I think in the last episode when we had Melissa on, that was like my slip it in. Melissa was uh a guest on our uh pot, and it was the eve of us traveling to New York. Quick sidebar, Megan. I didn't actually have to pee on the plane, so I didn't. I know, I wanted to hear about your experience. I know. Again, like we have to fill listeners in, but there was commentary from who is it? Jeff Lewis. Jeff Lewis, of course. Um, talking about how he enjoys the view of his side penis, his not side penis, his penis side view in a airport or airplane back. So the mirrors are on the side. Yeah, I couldn't get out of my role because there's a whole story there on the role.

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Well, listeners, don't worry. The three of us are all traveling to Houston this week. So there will be I'm not on your plan though.

SPEAKER_00 12:05

Well, I am, and I I feel that I'm gonna be like, you gotta pee?

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Do you gotta pee JJ? Do you gotta pee? Well, and I've already looked at our flights, and they're like, we're two, there's not three in a row because they're smaller planes. So it's just you and I. You are gonna have a task assigned over to you. I'll be texting you as well. I can get you on the plane. Oh my god, and you can tell you to go to the bathroom.

SPEAKER_01 12:29

So you went to New York. So we went to New York. I won't um, you know, give you the full rundown, but what I will say is, you know, we went there with a goal of seeing Broadway shows. We saw two Broadway shows. Nice.

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We saw Broadway show.

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We saw a drama, which is actually the first time I've seen a show in New York City that wasn't a musical show.

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I was gonna say, because you usually like a musical.

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I do, and I've and I've been I've seen like five or six musicals in New York City, and this is the first time we didn't, but like they gave us this recommendation. We told like whatever the universe presents us, we'll take it. We went. Uh amazing. It's called Punch, and it's getting a ton of Tony Buzz for next year. Uh it is about a and it's based on a real life person who uh was growing up. I I think it's like in London, uh, and he you know got mixed up with the wrong crowd. He lands one punch at a bar fight type of thing. That kid falls, hits his head, and ends up dying. Oh, wow. And he gets charged with like manslaughter, goes to prison, turns his life around, and it's all about the dynamics of his family, his own life, his journey. It was just we were bawling. Really? People around us were bawling. Like this man next to us put his hood up to cover his face. Like everybody, it was oh wow, it was incredible. The next day we backed it up with the musical and we saw MJ, which is the Michael Jackson, yeah. That's been around since like 2022, I think is what it means.

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No, I've seen the Cirque Soleil, the Cirque de Soleil one, but I have not seen the musical.

Monster: Ed Gein Story Unpacked

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I feel like I was watching Michael Jackson concert. Was it that? And then it he was so amazing and spot on, like it just it felt like you were transported to a time. Yeah, love it, and it uh um all of his music, it was so great. Okay, I gotta tell this one story. So while we're listening to the music, all of a sudden, she's out of my life comes on. And I I start, I'm I'm watching the show, and Missy Melissa is sitting next to me, and I start to kind of giggle to myself, and I'm like, I've got to whisper this to Melissa next to me. And I didn't know that she didn't know, but I'm like, why is she not reacting to this? Well, Megan has told me her whole life, she's a huge Michael Jackson fan, but she told me her whole life that when she dies at her funeral, she wants Michael Jackson to play. She's out of my life. And I'm always like, Megan, really? You want me to be at your funeral? And it's like, she's out of my life. And I whispered it to Missy, and she goes, What? She goes, What? And I'm like, This is the song Megan wants at her. She started like shoulder laughing. We were laughing. She was crying. She was laughing so hard. You know how you're in those situations where I mean it wasn't a funny part.

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No, because then yeah, it's like our shoulders are going up and down.

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We are laughing. It was so funny. It was so funny. Oh my god. And that's true, story, right?

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Michael gift that just keeps giving.

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Do you still want that plate at your funeral? Oh my god, I'm gonna make your wish come walk. Hopefully.

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Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 16:08

Maddie told me this story um when he got back, and I I didn't even know this song at all. So I didn't have to play it. It's a nice song.

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It's well, I mean, most of Michael's songs.

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She's out of my life. Like to symbolize your death. Like she's gone, she's out of my life.

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Like good written. Well, then you have some drinks and have fun.

SPEAKER_00 16:29

Yeah. So it's a win win. Oh my god. Oh.

SPEAKER_01 16:33

So anyway, that was um the Michael. Do you want to address the smelly Michael in the room?

SPEAKER_06 16:41

I don't need to address it, but apparently Lionel Ritchie feels like he needs to, and he's trying to sell books. So for anyone who hasn't heard, Lionel Ritchie has a memoir out, and he has chosen to make comments about Michael in there that's like the news, the news, and media are all reporting on like their news stories. But honestly, these are stories that have been around for years that Michael has addressed and talked about in his book, Moonwalker. So one of them is that um Quincy Jones would call Michael Smelly Michael because Michael lots of times would just like a self-explanatory article. Well, he would dance all night, he wouldn't change his clothes, he'd go in the studio. Lots of times, throw on clothes. Lots of times he'd just without showering. No, yeah. He and like so he smelled, and so Quincy started calling him Smelly Michael, which he loved and laughed and thought was the funny thing. I think it probably started like off the wall. I think he started after Quincy started commenting about his smell. Then I think he started getting his shit together.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_06 17:52

Um, but anyway, people are like, oh, Michael Jackson smelled, and then Lionel made some offhand comment, like, oh, well, Michael just threw on whatever. And, you know, so people think his white socks are so iconic, and that was just him throwing on whatever. But that is actually true. But like Michael talked about in Moonwalker how he, you know, didn't pay attention to his clothes, and sometimes his pants were too short because he'd outgrown them. But he would see dancing, then he'd have white socks on, and how when he'd kick his leg up, your eye would be would like go to his white socks. So then he's like, Oh, I kind of like these short pants where you can see my white socks. So when I dance, you see all this white.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 18:39

And then when I do kicks, your eyes are drawn to it. And then he carried that same thought over with his. He used to bandage his fingers a lot with white tape.

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I always liked that.

SPEAKER_06 18:50

And it was, he said, because then he would point and your eye was drawn to the tip of his finger. So cool. So he'd have the whites on both like the feet and the fingers. So when he was dancing and moving, people's eyes would be drawn.

SPEAKER_01 19:03

Total sense.

SPEAKER_06 19:04

And it would also accentuate different dance moves.

SPEAKER_01 19:06

Well, both of those things were on display in this musical. Oh, really?

SPEAKER_00 19:10

Talking about a stan standing for her ultimate fan right here. Oh, standing. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:18

Well, she also save the record straight. You know why she's coming to such defense is because this is also you guys go back to future or past episode when she got class trendsetter because she was wearing these penny loafers with white socks and short jeans. So she is protecting her own legacy. I feel like Lionel did not come for Michael.

SPEAKER_06 19:42

Well, Lionel's trying to sell books, and so he's trying to say, like, watch the slander things about Michael.

SPEAKER_01 19:48

Can we throw in the allegedly?

SPEAKER_06 19:50

Well, no, that's these are quotes from this book that Lionel wrote in his.

SPEAKER_01 19:55

Did Lionel say I'm telling you this because I'm trying to sell books? Well, no, that's what I'm talking about. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 20:01

And then the media is not like going back to like, oh, these are old stories that have been around. It's here to protect you forever.

SPEAKER_01 20:07

I'm just making sure Lionel doesn't come for you.

SPEAKER_06 20:10

Lionel, I'm a big fan. You don't need to like say salacious things about Michael to sell books. You can just sell them on your own history and human being that you are.

SPEAKER_01 20:21

Look into the camera and tell Lionel exactly what you want to do.

SPEAKER_06 20:24

Well, I love Lionel, and he's a highlight on American Idol for me. So I was sad.

SPEAKER_00 20:29

I do appreciate Lionel and American Idol. Except for when it stands. Well, talking about show business, I do have to say that I was down for the count this past week because I was very, very sick. But something that brought me to live was the live of a showgirl.

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No, that just dropped.

SPEAKER_00 20:46

That just dropped today.

SPEAKER_01 20:47

You just dropped it.

SPEAKER_00 20:49

I dropped that, yes.

SPEAKER_01 20:51

I mean, you and every other American. Well, every other American.

Palate Cleanser: M&M Taste Test

SPEAKER_00 20:55

Yeah, I I I are you guys excited about the life of the showgirl? Like you listened to the album already? I did listen. Okay. You haven't. I did.

SPEAKER_06 21:02

It's so I'm not the biggest. I mean, I I I like some songs, but I'm not, I wouldn't call myself a Taylor fan, but I'm not a Taylor hater.

SPEAKER_00 21:12

I don't think I'm a Swifty, I'm a Swifty adjacent, but I think that I would just say that this album is probably on my top three uh Taylor Swift albums.

SPEAKER_01 21:21

Oh, I know that's exciting. I do like I did listen to it. I didn't there wasn't one song that I listened to that I didn't like. Some of them I actually didn't like the beginning, and then as as it built, I'm like, because she to me is one of the all-time greatest songwriters. Love her music or don't love her music or love her voice or don't love her. Like she can write. Yeah. I mean, her lyrics are pretty off the charts.

SPEAKER_00 21:49

And I'm glad that you mentioned that, Maddie, because so far I do like them all. Um, but my favorite is All Polite. Um that I think that song really made me cry for some reason. Um, it kind of is like the song that I needed to hear to get you out of your sinus infection.

SPEAKER_01 22:08

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 22:09

I I just thought again, going back to her lyrics and her words, um, I did there was a specific that I wanted to just you know mention, a specific lyric that that she mentions there that I think that that is like what much choked me up a little bit. She's like, I'm and I quote, um, but my mama told me it's alright. You were dancing to the lightning strikes, sleepless in the onyx night, but now this guy is all polite.

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Wow.

SPEAKER_00 22:36

Like the way that she combines all the words, I think that she's just brilliant. Um, in how she's I mean, she's like a literacy is really taking the time to understand and take us in a journey. Um, and I think that it's it's just it's a masterpiece.

SPEAKER_01 22:55

Just yeah, along those lines, like because my dick is bigger. I mean, that also that that's father figure track number three, I believe.

SPEAKER_00 23:04

Yeah, I think so. But yeah, you're like wow, I mean she's taking us on a journey. Took about a turn, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 23:10

Well, Opalite supposedly is about Travis Kelsey, yeah. And father figures supposedly about uh Scooter Braun and then the other guy that was in charge of her career early on that basically screwed her over by selling off her music. Yeah, so I think in the end because she got her music back, is why she says her dick is bigger.

SPEAKER_01 23:29

Yeah, honorable. And I think it's great. And it also has like a nod to George Michael, which is like she had to pay for some rights. But if you listen to the song, I mean she said, I'll be your father figure. That's where the as far as the lyrics part go, yeah. That's the only similarity between the two songs. But like I think, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 23:50

I wish she sampled father figure in there.

SPEAKER_01 23:52

I kind of do too.

SPEAKER_06 23:53

Yeah, I was expecting that when I s heard that title.

SPEAKER_00 23:56

I don't know if she's gonna do that, but I something tells me that two months from now we're gonna get a you know, the life of a chill girl deluxe version. Because this one's only 13 songs. We come in from like the you know, uh the previous album that had like 27 songs, I think so. Around that.

SPEAKER_01 24:19

She's not like a vault of these songs because like she just has a natural talent. Like, I think she's writing constantly. Yeah. So there's just like all of this music, I think, that she just has and she dusts off, and you know, one day when she passes and she's out of our life they probably like they do nowadays, where like, oh, we found a new song from the Beatles, and like, or whatever, you know, so they'll probably be this.

SPEAKER_00 24:48

Yeah, probably.

SPEAKER_01 24:49

Yeah, like, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 24:51

Well, I think that's a lot of your artists who write their own music are always like remember in the um MM documentary, you see his notes where it's all these notes, and like the hitmakers, they're always like writing in their notepads and writing their books.

SPEAKER_01 25:08

Show us her like I that's why I write in my podcast book, and it's called The Creative Ramblings of a Restless Mind. And I am on page 22, episode 22. When that's how I work.

Phone Upgrades, AI & Pet Peeves

SPEAKER_06 25:21

Uh the listening room in Nashville, the artist who had written a song for uh Blake Shelton, Jay Brunswick, said he they had a situation where their artists they were supposed to write with canceled, and they're like, Well, we're gonna write anyway. And some other songwriter, his artist canceled. So, like the three of them got together and said, Let's just write together today. And the guys came in and said, I have this whole idea of like uh that's been rumbling around in my head of like you just have this keychain with a bunch of old keys on it. And so they wrote this song called Keys, which was became a song that Blake Shelton put on his album. So interesting stories of like they just sometimes like I've had this kind of thinking about this, like this old keychain, and then they would just write a song about it. And the guy you could have had it sitting around for a while. It's just a note in your notebook.

SPEAKER_00 26:13

You know, I think that that's the beauty of like songwriting, which we all love. Uh and Taylor Swift does it perfectly.

SPEAKER_01 26:19

Well, and it's she's basically putting her own life experiences out in like she's telling the story of her life through her music. Yeah, yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00 26:28

So I love it. I'm ready, yeah. Dear John, okay.

SPEAKER_01 26:34

All right, today is October 3rd. Yeah. The life of a show girl. The life of a showgirl. If you're not a Swifty or you are a Swifty, there's also something else that dropped, and as the resident true crime lover put me down. Huh? True crime stand. I'm a true crime stan. Monster, the Ed Gain story, dropped today on Netflix. It's an eight-episode series. And if you don't know Ed Gain, you're not alone. For whatever reason, he is not really like notorious in terms of like if you were to say Jeffrey Dahmer or Ted Bundy. Um, but everyone probably knows Texas Chainsaw Massacre or Silence of the Lambs and the classic psycho. Well, all three of those movies were apparently inspired by this Ed Gain.

SPEAKER_00 27:38

Oh, really? Okay.

SPEAKER_01 27:40

Yes. And from a standpoint of like notorious killers, a lot of times they have killed multiple people. In this case, they have only been able to prove that Ed Gain killed two women. And he is suspected of killing more. There were other women that went missing in the area. It was Minnesota, right? Wisconsin. Wisconsin, yes, Wisconsin. Um, but there were other women that went missing.

SPEAKER_00 28:14

Never found, never.

SPEAKER_01 28:16

Well, I mean, they don't really even, I don't even know who necessarily they are.

Dating Apps, Holiday “Snowballing”

SPEAKER_06 28:20

Seven women that have gone missing that they believe he may have killed. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 28:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 28:26

Yeah. So, and for anyone who doesn't know, Monster is part of Ryan Murphy. He's the producer of it. So this is in his monster series. So he's also the one that did the Menendez brothers on Netflix.

SPEAKER_00 28:41

And Jeffrey Dahmer.

SPEAKER_06 28:42

And the Jeffrey Dahmer one on Netflix. So now they're taking on the Ed Gain story.

SPEAKER_00 28:47

So this is the third one.

SPEAKER_06 28:48

The third one. Correct. And I wasn't like, I was like, oh, I don't know that name. So I had to do some research a little bit about him. And the reason he inspired specifically what I remember the most is Silence of the Lambs, where they had that Buffalo Bill character who was like finding women who are a size 14 because he was skinning them to make it well.

SPEAKER_01 29:13

He was starving them to lose weight so that their skin would then be like loose enough.

SPEAKER_06 29:19

Yeah. And then he was skinning them whatever to make a suit. And apparently, this is what this Ed Gain was doing. Like he said that after his mother died, he Augusta was his mother.

SPEAKER_01 29:31

Oh, okay. Augusta.

SPEAKER_06 29:32

He began to create a woman's suit so that he could become his mother, he said, to literally crawl into her skin.

SPEAKER_01 29:39

So that's where the cycle piece is connected. If you watch that classic, like he the mother-son relationship there. And then obviously the leather piece of it. And he like one of these well, we should say that in addition, so I we always like to give proper recognition or give names to the The victims, right? So the Mary Hogan and Bernice Warden were the two that they were able to link him uh unequivocally to. Uh but uh he would use uh the skin from these women, but then he would also go up and gravedig.

National Coming Out Day & Stonewall

SPEAKER_06 30:19

So he dozens of grave sites, he would dig up bodies to then I don't know where he How would he know that the skin was ready on those bodies that were well he they were recently like they would be bodies that would recently that got buried and then he'd go because he like like they when they searched his house, um they found a wastebasket made of human skin. They found human skin, yeah, covering several chairs.

SPEAKER_01 30:51

Yeah, it's yeah, yeah. So I think like anything though, like when you say you don't know, like how would he know? Like if it once you do it once and you're like, oh, this is the shape I found this body, like he probably crafted, like you know, got better and better. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_06 31:07

And he was uh he specifically targeted middle-aged women. So it would be middle-aged women who died in like three different cities around. He'd go to the grave sites and dig them up. Yeah, and here's just like let me just go through because like I didn't know him by the way.

SPEAKER_01 31:26

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 31:27

So like so he had bowls made from human skulls, a corset made from a female torso, skin from shoulders to waist, leggings made from human like skin, masks made from the skin of female heads, female skulls, some with the top sewn off, human skulls mounted on bedposts. He had Bernice Warden's heart in a plastic bag in front of his pop belly stove. He had nine vulvas in a shoebox. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 32:01

He had a belt made from nine vulvas and your shoebox.

SPEAKER_01 32:06

Yeah, well, he had I don't even know what if I saw a vulva, I wouldn't even know. Would you be able to point one out?

SPEAKER_00 32:12

Well no, he was trying to get American. What? American from the vulva. No hair.

SPEAKER_06 32:18

I know the vulva is not the hairy part, it's the whole the lips part.

SPEAKER_00 32:23

Oh, the lips. Are you talking about the carve? The vulva? No, the the hair. Okay, we're okay carry on, please.

Jennifer Hudson’s Spirit Tunnel

SPEAKER_06 32:30

A belt made from female human nipples. He had four noses, he had a pair of lips on a window shade draw skirt string. Uh you said earlier a lampshade made from the skin of a human face, and he had fingernails from female fingers around the house.

SPEAKER_01 32:49

I mean, are you ready for this, JJ?

SPEAKER_00 32:52

Yeah, I don't know. I'm committed, I'm committed to it. And for those listening, like out of Megan, Maddie and me, like I'm the scary cat when it comes to this type of story. I I love the way that Ryan Murphy tells a story, and I love the you know, Jeffrey Dahmer. I did it. I might have to be on cue, like either Abbott Elementary or the Paper.

SPEAKER_01 33:17

Right, something to cleanse your cleanse your palate after.

SPEAKER_00 33:20

Yeah, because it's just too heavy.

SPEAKER_06 33:21

Well, and this all happened in like the mid to late 50s.

SPEAKER_01 33:24

I and I will say, uh, when you say Ryan Murphy and how he tells the story, I will just say, I mean, if people haven't watched the other two, like it's rooted in it's rooted in facts, but they take a lot of creative liberties and there is a blurring between faction fact and fiction. But I mean, you just saw you just got the facts from me.

SPEAKER_06 33:47

So like I I mean the facts are crazy on their own.

SPEAKER_01 33:51

So like I don't know what the show's gonna bring, if but like it's I I it's sitting in there right now. I want to click on it and watch it right now if we weren't recording.

SPEAKER_06 34:01

Well, and for my reality fans out there, Love is Blind also just dropped the new season that's based in Duncan.

SPEAKER_00 34:09

That'll be a great way to get reality. I love Love is Blind.

Wrap-Up & How to Reach Us

SPEAKER_01 34:13

I've never watched it, but I might start watching it just because if you watch that game, I don't even know if I want to go on a date.

SPEAKER_00 34:18

Like, you know, it's kind of like well, I'll for sure watch it during the day.

SPEAKER_06 34:22

Well, there's something interesting that I I'll be curious to see if this gets put into the series because it's it's interesting and anecdotal. But uh the last woman that is how they caught him because they were searching for her and he had seen he was shopping in her store right before she disappeared. I remember that. Um, which was I think her name, Bernice Warden. And so they went to his house to talk to him or whatever, and found her basically hung up and up like you hang up a deer.

SPEAKER_02 34:52

Okay, and her head was chopped off, and he was by the pop pot belly stove. Yeah, that was the heart, I don't know. Her heart, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 34:59

But anyway, so she was hanging in his shed.

SPEAKER_01 35:01

But tomato, tomato.

SPEAKER_06 35:03

So that's when it all started, and they arrested him and everything else. But what happened later was they wanted to get rid of his property because he owned his house and land, and they didn't want it to turn into a tourist attraction or whatever. So when they they were gonna auction it off, and they had to clean one to clean it out completely. So they hired this cleaning crew who was like taking a bunch of junk and stuff and burning it.

SPEAKER_02 35:30

Yeah, no, no one's in there. The things they're burning, it's human flesh that can't smell great.

SPEAKER_06 35:36

So they're burning stuff, and apparently they were burning it on some burn site or burn barrels in uh on his property, and somehow the house caught on fire.

SPEAKER_03 35:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 35:48

And ended up burning to the ground. But what's interesting is they're like, it's odd that the where they were burning, like how this house could really catch fire and people suspected it was arson. Well, nothing was really done about it because surprise, surprise, the fire chief was the son of Bernice Warden, who was his victim that got him arrested.

SPEAKER_00 36:10

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_06 36:11

So it's just kind of interesting because then they're like, Well, did the fire chief even kind of make it so that it all just burned up?

SPEAKER_01 36:17

Right. And like, even if he didn't start it, he wasn't quick to go put it out.

SPEAKER_06 36:22

Correct. Or to investigate was it really our sin? Because, or maybe he even hired some. Who knows? Like, who knows? It's in I don't know if they'll show that, but it was just interesting that like these were small towns in Wisconsin, and like the fire chief was the son of the last victim.

SPEAKER_00 36:38

We're in for the ride. Oh my god. I know. I need something lighter now. Can we just switch? Sure. How about uh you want for something sweet?

SPEAKER_01 36:46

You want an MM?

unknown 36:48

Yes, please.

SPEAKER_00 36:49

Okay, let's change it for sure.

SPEAKER_01 36:51

All right, all right. That'll cleanse the palate a little bit. So I mentioned earlier in the episode in New York, uh, we went to the large MM store. MM as in not stan, but MM as in candy, melts in your mouth, not in your hands.

SPEAKER_06 37:07

I thought you were gonna say MM, not as in Megan and Maddie.

SPEAKER_01 37:10

Oh I mean the branding is all over the place. So yeah, so I noticed two MM flavors at the store that I had never seen before, and one is right on brand for the season. It is pumpkin pie, and I think you know, people are either on one side of the pumpkin or on the other, so we'll get into that. And the other one is caramel caramel do you say caramel or caramel? How do you say it?

SPEAKER_06 37:39

I sometimes switch it back and forth. I typically say caramel, but sometimes I like to say caramel just because it's fun.

SPEAKER_02 37:46

Oh, do you say it caramel? Yeah, you know what? There's three of that caramel.

SPEAKER_01 37:54

There's when you said it caramel, there's three. There's caramel, caramel, or caramel.

SPEAKER_00 38:00

I do say it. Wait, what do you mean?

SPEAKER_01 38:04

I think that was number two.

SPEAKER_06 38:05

Is it caramel?

SPEAKER_01 38:07

Caramel or caramel, caramel, caramel, caramel.

SPEAKER_06 38:12

There, I feel like the two caramels are the same.

SPEAKER_01 38:15

Can we add it? I think we got it. All right, so caramel cold brew. So it's caramel coffee, really, like a caramel macchiato, I guess, would be the equivalent, right?

SPEAKER_06 38:28

Yeah, no, because cold brew is cold brew. Oh, like it's its own coffee category.

SPEAKER_01 38:33

All right. Well, I'm not a connoisseur of that. So, all right. So have you tried them? They're in front of us. Do you want to pop one in your mouth?

SPEAKER_06 38:42

I've had them. I tried them both. I will say the pumpkin pie doesn't taste like pumpkin much at all. Like it's hardly do taste any pumpkin.

SPEAKER_00 38:54

I agree with that.

SPEAKER_06 38:55

So for me, who's not really a pumpkin pie lover, I enjoy them, but I don't know if I had a regular MM with this next to the pumpkin pie, if I could tell the two apart. That's how little you'll taste the pumpkin pie.

SPEAKER_01 39:10

I kind of agree. I think the pumpkin came in at the end of the experience when it's melting in my mouth. I liked it, but again, I it didn't seem pumpkin forward to me.

SPEAKER_06 39:23

Yeah. And the caramel cold brew, I thought was I'm sorry, I've got caramel cold brew in my throat. Yeah. So the the caramel cold brew is very coffee forward. It is coffee forward. So if you don't like coffee, you're not gonna like it.

SPEAKER_00 39:43

I do like the texture. Yeah, different textures to it, and I don't remember tasting a different MM with a chewy texture in the middle. Like I like the peanut butter, the peanut. I like the peanut MMs, one of my favorite.

SPEAKER_01 40:01

Those are dangerous.

SPEAKER_00 40:02

Because of the crunchiness of the peanut. This one with the chewiness of the caramel. You like it? So good. And I am a big pumpkin pie aficionado. Like that's probably one of my favorite desserts. Um, and I did not tell us.

SPEAKER_01 40:18

Sorry. What? My god, no, please. I was just so sorry. I was so quick to get to Megan's. I want a Megan's take on pumpkin pie.

SPEAKER_00 40:28

Well, she kind of went over the phone.

SPEAKER_01 40:29

Do you remember what she said earlier? If I don't have another piece of pumpkin pie in my entire life, she'll be fine.

SPEAKER_00 40:36

She'll be fine.

SPEAKER_02 40:37

I will be.

SPEAKER_06 40:38

I've not I'm not a pumpkin pie girl.

SPEAKER_01 40:40

So this time of year must be something. I mean, it's pumpkin everything.

SPEAKER_06 40:44

Yeah. And you'll likely hear me say, I'm my pull it out is pumpkin pie or pumpkin spice. I'm over it.

SPEAKER_00 40:51

Oh, pumpkin spice. Don't get me into that. I will, I will, even though I'm a lover of pumpkin sp uh pumpkin pie, pumpkin pumpkin spice flavor, I'm out.

SPEAKER_01 41:02

No. Me too. What about pumpkin candle scents? Do you like that scent?

SPEAKER_00 41:06

I can tolerate some of it. Do you like that scent? Mix it up with vanilla.

SPEAKER_01 41:10

Yeah, if it has a little vanilla. I'm pretty much I'm full in on pumps, pumpkins. Full in. Really?

SPEAKER_06 41:18

So you'll order a pumpkin pie or a pumpkin spice. I don't anything.

SPEAKER_01 41:23

I don't really like the texture of pumpkin pie. So I guess you're not into pumpkin pie then.

SPEAKER_02 41:30

You don't like the texture. Oh god.

SPEAKER_01 41:33

I find things out about myself in real time. Pumpkin MM, I'm out. Well, you don't caramel. Can I clarify?

SPEAKER_00 41:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:42

You liked it, but you didn't get the pumpkin, so therefore it's disqualified. Or did you not like it at all?

SPEAKER_00 41:48

It doesn't live to the expectation. That's fair. So it's nothing does it doesn't do anything to me. And also, you know, there we don't we have no viewers, but I do like a larger MM, like the Well, that's larger than the regular M. I know, but if you can compare the two, the caramel one is a little larger.

SPEAKER_06 42:08

Well, the caramel one I'll tell for the listeners is like a peanut MM size.

SPEAKER_00 42:13

Just like it, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 42:14

And then like the pumpkin pie one is more the size of a peanut butter MM. No, peanut butter MM. Okay. Which is bigger than a traditional MM. So I think caramel cold brew, if you like coffee, you'll like it.

SPEAKER_01 42:32

You have to try it. I don't know where we find them.

SPEAKER_06 42:34

The chewy caramel is really good, and they do make a regular caramel MM.

SPEAKER_01 42:38

Oh, they do?

SPEAKER_06 42:38

Yeah. And I haven't had it in a long time, so I can't remember if it has that chewy caramel in it or not, which I also really enjoyed.

SPEAKER_00 42:45

Yeah, I might add it in a recipe for Megan for our cookies if I see uh an a caramel.

SPEAKER_06 42:50

That's uh intent.

SPEAKER_00 42:53

This is good. This is a good review.

SPEAKER_06 42:54

Well, so anyway, check it out. I mean, who doesn't love an MM? And these are fresh from the MM store, which if people don't know, MMs has an amazing website, and you can go on and create special mixes. You can pick your colors, you can put different letters, different pictures on your MMs, like you can customize them to the hilt.

SPEAKER_01 43:16

Just so you know, in the store, you could do it right there. You could stand in front of like the cameras and do all this stuff, and like they had, yeah, it was three levels.

SPEAKER_06 43:25

Where are the other locations of the MM stores? I know there's a few around. We don't have one in Detroit.

SPEAKER_01 43:31

We do not have that information.

SPEAKER_06 43:33

Okay. Wow.

SPEAKER_05 43:34

So go to the website and have your way with it.

SPEAKER_06 43:38

Yeah, have your way with it. I think it's time for some slip it ins and pull it out. And my slip it in is kind of a thank you. So it's a thank you to Maddie. Oh so we've been having a lot of ongoing discussions.

SPEAKER_01 43:55

This is out of the blue.

SPEAKER_06 43:56

Well, because it literally happened tonight. Oh no, and um basically there's been lots of discussions because the new iPhones just got announced in September. And I was adamant this year I was getting a new iPhone because I have a 12 and I need to upgrade, but I keep putting it on because the new iPhones did not hold much new things were exciting for me. And I really, really want a folding iPhone. And every year, keep getting teased that this is the year that the folding iPhone's coming out. Well, I thought it would be this year, it did not. They're saying next year, but then when you read the fine print, it sounds like it could even be end of next year, early 27. So that's it. I'm done. I'm gonna get the new iPhone. Maddie convinced me because there's all these fun Apple AI things you can use if you have the new software, which my phone is so old, I can't get I can get the new software, but I don't get all the Apple AI upgrades that you would get.

SPEAKER_01 45:05

Stop waiting for the flip, which is fine if you want that. But then I did a quick search because I'm like, girl, as we as you say in the past with your 12 and they keep coming out with more, there's gonna be a point where the software is not gonna be compatible. So I did I did educate a little bit.

SPEAKER_06 45:24

Well, and my software can be upgraded to the new one. It just don't get all the good fun AI stuff, right? Which I'm really enjoying, a little chat GPT or AI whenever I can get it. There's so much and we are enjoying that too.

SPEAKER_01 45:36

I'm just learning. So we need you to have access to that. I like it. Sorry. No, I'm you're fine. I no, it's good. Good, good.

SPEAKER_06 45:43

So my slipping it in is I'm gonna get the new iPhone. So I'll no longer have the oldest iPhone in the room with my 12.

SPEAKER_00 45:55

You have a pullout?

SPEAKER_06 45:56

Yep, I have a pull out. So my pull it out is your 12. Well, that probably should be. Sorry, sorry, sorry. But I'm okay with the 12 until I learned about all the Apple AI features. But anyway, I was shopping and this just makes me so angry. Is when there's baggers and they're like, oh, what kind of bag do you want? You tell them. Um they bag everything, and then you are pushing your cart out and you look down. Well, they choose not to bag a box of soda or a milk carton or laundry detergent thing. Anything with a handle, they're not bagging. And it irritates me because I can't carry four bags and then carry something by a handle. Like I want those things bagged as well.

SPEAKER_01 46:47

You put it in the cart. No, you can't.

SPEAKER_06 46:49

I I like it whether it's you have I usually put the cart where it goes and carry the bags because I don't usually I buy small loads usually, so I can carry a few bags in my hands, but not when they've got soda boxes and milk jugs that they don't put in a bag. So those things you can't carry plus like four bags at the same time. So whether it's to my car or not, yeah, I could take the car, but then when I get home, I can't make it all in unless I have multiple trips in the house.

SPEAKER_01 47:21

And I'm usually taking more than one trip. I try to do the one trip.

SPEAKER_06 47:26

And I really try to maximize everything I can to get in with one trip. Yeah. So that's my irritation is like just because it has a built-in handle doesn't mean a bag isn't warranted. And if you're not gonna bag it, and I've you said please bag it and use this type of bag, I feel like they should just be bagging my items or they should ask me, should we bag it or not?

SPEAKER_03 47:48

Okay, got it.

SPEAKER_06 47:49

Come on, over yep, I'll come on over and I'm gonna come on over with one load in. You know, oh whoa.

SPEAKER_03 47:57

That's what he said.

SPEAKER_01 47:59

Oh, wow. You or me, JJ. Okay. So I heard this uh in my feed. I was going through content, and you if you if you know, like I'm just as guilty, I'm gonna say this up front. I'm just as guilty as JJ and Megan. We sometimes will talk over each other, we sometimes interrupt, and I think this phrase is perfect for us. It's goes like this Did the middle of my sentence interrupt the beginning of yours? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 48:37

That's your slipping in.

SPEAKER_01 48:39

That's my slipping in, because it's like, oh my god, that's my life. I'm halfway through my thought, and then somebody else, you guys start speaking to me, and I'm like, oh, did the middle of my sentence interrupt the beginning of yours?

SPEAKER_00 48:52

But I gotta say, like, Maddie, like to the listeners, this is really who we are in the pod and outside of the pod. Well, yeah, all the time.

SPEAKER_01 49:00

Well, I love it, and it's it's I want it to like be on my tomb.

SPEAKER_06 49:06

All right, well, I'll oh well, let I'll be curious to ever see if you use it.

SPEAKER_01 49:10

Well, you'll be out of my life.

SPEAKER_06 49:12

So before excuse me, okay.

SPEAKER_01 49:17

My pull it out is this to me is a red flag on the dating apps. Anyone that under their occupation says self-employed. I an entrepreneur, they don't know how to spell entrepreneur, they do self-employed, they do self-employed, and I'm like, what does that mean? Like, I get it. If you are a owner, a CEO of your own company, I'm sure you're gonna be like CEO of my own company. Self-employed is like you are selling shit on marketplace or whatever, you're making your living on like you know, screen printing your own t-shirts.

SPEAKER_00 50:01

But you usually usually do you know what they sell? Bitcoin.

SPEAKER_01 50:05

Oh god, yeah. Bitcoin is another one, it's just red flags all over the place. However, I just want to just say I don't see that anymore right now because I am off the apps. Wow. So no more, no more of that, no more of that. Uh I decided October 1st. Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_00 50:26

I went off of that October 3rd, October 1st.

SPEAKER_01 50:29

Correct. I dropped two days before.

SPEAKER_00 50:31

Yeah, do you don't want to tailor and like yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:34

I'm off the apps. My goal is, and I'm gonna give you a little background on why I made my choices. I haven't told you guys this yet. I'm gonna come back on in the new year. The last quarter of the year, people get into relationships for the wrong reasons. Yeah. Both like from my standpoint, the holidays, you don't want to be alone, so you start like making uh what sacrifices, or you're like, well, I'll settle because I don't want to be alone. And then people on the receiving end are kind of the same. So you could find yourself in like a holiday relationship.

SPEAKER_00 51:12

Yeah, so it's just that it's kind of like a pull out and a slip it in at the same time, media theater.

SPEAKER_01 51:18

Well, I'm here.

SPEAKER_06 51:20

Well, isn't that called isn't it called um snowmanning or snow globing?

SPEAKER_02 51:26

I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 51:26

There's a term, there's a term for the like holiday relationships and they're like, it's some sense. It's something like that.

SPEAKER_00 51:35

You might want to boop booop boop. It's coffee season.

SPEAKER_01 51:38

But I will say just what I will also say coming back on in January, I'm hoping I'll come in as fresh and new. I'm collecting great photos for the next three months for my for a refresh of my photos. And then in the new year, other people that might be interested in might also be like, it's the year of 2026, I'm putting myself out there. So that's it. That's that's my life of showman. Showgirl.

SPEAKER_06 52:07

Okay, so it's called Holiday Snowball, or also known as Snow Globing and Snowmanning. You were gonna be able to do that. So we were all right.

SPEAKER_01 52:14

We were all three of us. I'm doing it. I am snowballing. I'm snowballing it.

SPEAKER_00 52:21

I love it, I love it. Um my slip it in is that by the time that this episode air, um October 11th has passed pass, and October 11th is the national coming out day. Oh. And I want to, you know, encourage our community to continue to support us. I think that is a beautiful thing that we have that day to recognize us that have been able to do that. Um, there's many that are still quiet about it. Um, and if you're listening, we hear you, we are stand with you. I know it's going to be hard, but living your authentic self is the best thing that could ever happen to your life. Uh I tell it by experience. Maddie is, you know, also being, you know, in the you know, coming out, you know, side of things, me coming out later on um it was hard, but life does get better. Life does get better. And I think that that is my slip it in uh for today.

SPEAKER_06 53:31

I love that. I will just yeah. Well, I think it deserves a little come on over.

SPEAKER_00 53:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:38

And I was just gonna say, um, in New York I went to Stonewall.

SPEAKER_00 53:42

Oh you did.

SPEAKER_01 53:43

Yeah. Yeah, and it was so amazing to I had never done that. And so, like, that's such a historical And what is snow Stonewall. Stonewall, sorry. I know what it is.

SPEAKER_06 53:55

I know what I'm too caught up in the snowballs.

SPEAKER_01 53:57

That's like where really the activism and the riots, uh like the first brick was thrown, and that's like in New York City, and that's where like the trans community and the gay community like had an uprising, and they it's really a pivotal moment in our history, and which you know, like kind of came out from behind the curtain and you know, out of the closet, I guess if you will. And started to like from there, you know, marches ensued, and there were a lot of key figures in the community. But yeah. So it was it was I you know, just to sit in there at the bar and have a drink up at the bar, and it was just pretty cool pretty amazing. So I love your submitted. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:40

And my pull it out is uh Jennifer Hudson show Spirit Tunnel. I don't know if you've seen videos of it. It's annoying. They they're she's got their staff in this tunnel or this hallway singing they made up songs for the artists and celebrities to go in before they jump in into the interview. It's so annoying. Shouldn't you be working?

SPEAKER_06 55:06

Well, it's just that I've seen videos of this like on Instagram and TikTok, and I think it looks really cool. Like and I think if I was gonna be on the show and I got to walk through that, it would be so uplifting and fun.

SPEAKER_00 55:21

Well, the celebrity doesn't even know what the song is gonna they're gonna sing. There is a made-up song of sometimes their head, sometimes something about their name. And you can see some of the celebrities like doing like this awkward dance or like trying to be happy about it. Um, I just find it very annoying.

SPEAKER_01 55:38

I don't really I love Jennifer Hudson as a singer. I'm not a big fan of her as a talk show host, so yeah. You got my bolt. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 55:49

That's my pull out.

SPEAKER_06 55:50

Well, I'd be curious to know how you'd feel about it if you were actually going on the show and got to walk through the stuff. Well, I mean, I that's a different story.

unknown 55:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:00

He'd be like, I love your spirit tunnel.

SPEAKER_00 56:02

There's only one celebrity that has like denied being on the tunnel. Oh, really? Who? Yeah, the the guy from the pit, uh Noah Wiley. Yeah, really?

SPEAKER_06 56:11

He said no, I'm not doing it. That's odd. I'm surprised.

SPEAKER_00 56:15

He just felt very uncomfortable about it. Because he's not even in like he's not a singer. It's like, what are they gonna talk about? Because they just chant things about it.

SPEAKER_01 56:22

But you can chant all sorts of stuff.

SPEAKER_00 56:24

Like I agree with him.

SPEAKER_06 56:26

Megan, I can't imagine you'd be like, no, not doing it. Oh, I would do it 100%. You would I just saw Jessica Simpson walk through this week. Yeah. And she are you guys watching this show?

SPEAKER_00 56:38

Are you guys no? I'm not watching the show. I'm just for some reason I get videos of this tunnel.

SPEAKER_06 56:44

They show it, it's on like social media all the time. Like the artists of who go through it. And it looks kind of fun.

SPEAKER_00 56:50

Not to me. Well, that's my pull-up.

SPEAKER_01 56:53

Okay, I think this is we're gonna cue Megan to give out all of our information. It's gonna be take some notes because it's a rattle, rattle, rattle off.

SPEAKER_06 57:02

Well, we're gonna combat it. Yeah, the next time we're coming back to you, we'll be in Houston. True. But in the meantime, you can see everything we talked about on our link tree. You can get links to everything that uh we put out there. So check us out on our link tree at slip it in podcast. You can always reach out to us in the meantime with your comments, your self-help questions, whatever you need by slipping into our DMs on Instagram, TikTok, X, and Facebook. We're known as Slip Itin Podcast. You can also email us at slipitinpodcast at gmail.com. And we always love a call or a text at 313-444-9004. And remember, whenever you reach out, don't forget to leave your name and where you are from. Till next time, from Houston.

SPEAKER_04 57:56

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