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Slippers unite it's time to play. We bring the spice to your work or your day, confessions debates, and a product or two. We slip it in just for you.

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You laugh, you cringe, you welcome, welcome, welcome, everyone. We are back slipping it in with you. This is me again, and I'm back COVID free.

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This is Maddie, and this is JJ.

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Yeah, the reason we're laughing if you're tuning in and didn't wat listen to last week's episode is that Grinder came out with a collab with Christina Aguilera, and you have the option on your grinder app to change the regular notification that's pretty iconic. I mean, at least people know what it is, but now you can change it to come on over, right?

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It is the givea kids nickname.

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But it works, it works for you too being COVID-free because now you can come on over in studio with us. So that's amazing. But speaking of that app, um, JJ and I put that whole concept to use this past weekend, right? We went to this shitty little festival. It was like a fall festival. It's like trying to make a name for itself. I think it's year two.

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I was gonna say, is it year one or year two?

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It felt like year one, but I think it's year two. Anyway, it felt like when we're walking around and there's like booths that are like very spread apart, so they didn't have a lot of.

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There was a theme. There was a theme.

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Uh I mean pumpkins and witches and also like I just cleaned out my closet and hung shit up on a co-hand on these racks, and I'm trying to sell it.

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Like fall cleanup.

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It felt like individual tiny little garage sales to me. In the fall. Wow.

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Yeah, yeah, it did.

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So, but anyway, what what we were doing is we would see like a handsome man that we assume was straight. A lot of times it he was because he was with his, and I'd be like, JJ, yeah, there's a come on over.

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We identify them right away. I mean, especially with like a gay adjacent, we immediately were just like, Oh, yeah, it's come on over. Yeah.

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Come on over. God, I love that.

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And JJ did a little come on over to my neighbor. Oh, yeah, one of my favorites. No. I don't think so.

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I think he's cute.

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Well, JJ, in your own words, you said. And I also said to you, I'm like, I don't, like, I don't get it. Like, from what I know, he doesn't seem like your type, and you're like, he's not my he's not.

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And that I think that that's what you know that sometimes you can start not believing it. But I think that sometimes I look, I do like me, like a little surprise of like, oh, I do find this person attractive.

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I can relate to that. Okay. Like, I mean, like on paper, you can write down what you think your type is, but then somebody out of nowhere can just like defy that.

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Yeah, I I love a fix it upper.

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Well, you're supposed to like women for who they are, not who you want to change them to be.

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Oh, well, good point.

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Yeah, good point.

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Well, but he's he's so anyway. He likes a short short run the neighbor.

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Oh, well, and he takes his shirt off, which is crazy to me. Really? It's yeah, okay. Let we can let's keep moving. But um, so what we ended up at the secret bakery.

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Oh my god, yes. So what while we were getting out of this amazing festival, uh, one of the things that I would tell Maddie is like, oh yeah, the secret bakery. And Lexi, that was in our episode um two episodes ago, she was the one that encouraged us to just go to a you know local bakery and get our starter. So I was like, Maddie, why don't we just ask him and see you know what we can get out of that? So we you know, we went to the secret bakery. He was the nicest. He was so nice. So nice, so nice. And uh we got he has some pumpkin bread there, so we ordered some of the pumpkin bread, and I had just asked him, I was like, Do you happen to have any starter? I did ask him, it's like, do you sell the starter? Yeah, we kind of played dumb.

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Yeah, because like it's weird, like we're it's uncharted territory for us.

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Yeah, and he he had it like right behind him. Uh so he immediately gave it to us, and he's like, Yes, like I I encouraged it, yeah.

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We talked for like 10 minutes, we told him about the pod. Um, we talked about Lexi. We showed pictures of the loaves she had made, and he was just very encouraging. And he told us about how the bread community is very unpretentious, yeah, and welcoming. And he's like, and just remember, at the end of the day, it's bread. It's like this, we're not like curing cancer, it's bread. And he said, uh when we started our journey, he said, I'll give you uh three pieces of advice. He said, slow down, use your senses and listen to your instincts. That's what I'm saying. So I thought that was pretty cool.

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Well, and I think it would be important to say that when you're talking about he, you're talking about the baker who is Max Leonard, who started the secret bakery out of his home, and he was a 2025 James Beard finalist for uh outstanding bakery out of the whole country. So I mean he's an amazing baker and you got an amazing starter.

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Yeah.

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He was working out of his home until his stupid little neighbor reported in. Always the neighbor, the rebellious. And they shut down his secret operation. So, in quotes, you can't see me, but secret operation, which then led to like, well, let's call it a secret bakery. So they don't really do a ton of like if you were to walk by, you almost like unless you got it close and were looking in the window, you would yeah, like the equivalent of a speakeasy for a bar. And so it's it's kind of a cool little concept. So you can check him out if you'd like. It's maxbread.net.

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Uh that's a website.

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Yeah. Yeah. And has in the story and yeah, all of the things. And uh I use that starter, I fed it for the last week.

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Yes, you did.

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I Dolepa is what I named my star starter, Doe Lipa.

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Doe Lipa is looking great.

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Oh, I fed her. I made two loaves. Lexi says for the first time Baker that she's ever seen made sourdough, it's the best she's seen.

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Oh, look at that.

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And uh great reviews. Yeah. So I think we can take a couple photos or maybe a little shoot a little content and let everyone see what it tasted great.

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Yeah, and I might take on the challenge and take a little bit of your starter, and then I don't know next week because we are traveling next week, but um, maybe the following.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I bought all like all the little supplies you're supposed to have as a sourdough baker, so I can pack those up for you.

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I knew that you were gonna be as committed as it can be. Yeah, I commit.

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Yeah, well, as you guys were touring your fall fest and getting your starter, um, I luckily recovered from COVID just in time, literally testing negative, like two days before my flight, and I flew off to Nashville.

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Nice.

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So I had a little biscuit love in Nashville talking about sourdough.

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What does that mean?

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Biscuit love biscuit Love is a Nashville biscuit shop that's like very well known. So they're very good biscuits. Um, anyway, that was my first time in Nashville. It was amazing. I loved it. Um, surprisingly, like I know most people go to Nashville and they're on Broadway going to all the honky tonks and all the celebrity bars. We only did that for a few hours one day and it was fun. But um, my favorite thing was probably we went to a place called the listening room, which is downtown Nashville, but not on Broadway. And it's where they do multiple shows a day with uh a few singer-songwriters. And the singer-songwriters are usually up-and-coming Nashville country music artists, or they are professional songwriters who've literally uh written songs for major country artists. So the day we were there, um one of the artists was Jay Brunswick, who is a famous songwriter. He's written songs for country artists like Blake Shelton and Reba McIntyre. And yeah, he's continually in like very high-up writer rooms writing songs for major artists.

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So this is kind of on your in your alley of like that show that you love, Hitmakers.

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It was. I felt like I was in like hitmakers. I mean, they weren't writing the songs in front of me, but I love when they tell a little story before they get into it. And then we went and saw a show at the Ryman, which is a famous theater in Nashville, and it's where the Grand Old Opry started. But as a theater back in like the early 1900s, I mean Houdini performed there. They had a lot of like presidents came and when they would go to Nashville, they go and speak there. There was a lot of like um activist stuff for you know um black rights and stuff in the country. They would hold stuff there. So it's this famous theater. The acoustics are amazing, it's very small. Anyway, we saw Toad the Wets Rocket, and then we learned literally days before that KT Tunstall and Vertical Horizon were opening. And I'm like, I know, I don't know Vertical Horizon, and everyone's like, you're gonna know the song. And of course, the song they ended with, which they're like, it's our most famous song. I knew every word too. Really? Yeah, yeah.

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Nice.

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And KT Tunstall, I'm like, I'm not a big black horse cherry sink, cherry song lover, and that's the only song I knew she had.

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I think you got that mixed up. Black horse cherry tree. Yeah. Well, did you say black tree, cherry wheel? Maybe I did.

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Anyway, I was like, oh, I don't know. She was just there on her own doing loops like Ed Sheeran. Like it sounded like she had a full band because she kept playing little songs and then putting him on a loop and then singing over them, and she was amazing. So, like, literally, she was my favorite of the whole night. And if you ever she comes to town, you should go see her. She puts on a great, great show.

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Serena Ryder. Oh my god. We love like singer songwriters. I'm a big fan of. I know you have been as well. Yeah, and I'll say Nashville for me is a always been one of my top five cities.

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I will oh, I would never forget the trip that we had. We we we went to Nashville with your dad and your stepmom, and we meet that we met them there. Orland was there, yeah.

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Well, okay, so transition to another top five city of mine, New York City, which I think in the last episode when we had Melissa on, that was like my slip it in. Melissa was uh a guest on our uh pot, and it was the eve of us traveling to New York. Quick sidebar, Megan. I didn't actually have to pee on the plane, so I didn't. I know, I wanted to hear about your experience. I know. Again, like we have to fill listeners in, but there was commentary from who is it? Jeff Lewis. Jeff Lewis, of course. Um, talking about how he enjoys the view of his side penis, his not side penis, his penis side view in a airport or airplane back. So the mirrors are on the side. Yeah, I couldn't get out of my role because there's a whole story there on the role.

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Well, listeners, don't worry. The three of us are all traveling to Houston this week. So there will be I'm not on your plan though.

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Well, I am, and I I feel that I'm gonna be like, you gotta pee?

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Do you gotta pee JJ? Do you gotta pee? Well, and I've already looked at our flights, and they're like, we're two, there's not three in a row because they're smaller planes. So it's just you and I. You are gonna have a task assigned over to you. I'll be texting you as well. I can get you on the plane. Oh my god, and you can tell you to go to the bathroom.

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So you went to New York. So we went to New York. I won't um, you know, give you the full rundown, but what I will say is, you know, we went there with a goal of seeing Broadway shows. We saw two Broadway shows. Nice.

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We saw Broadway show.

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We saw a drama, which is actually the first time I've seen a show in New York City that wasn't a musical show.

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I was gonna say, because you usually like a musical.

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I do, and I've and I've been I've seen like five or six musicals in New York City, and this is the first time we didn't, but like they gave us this recommendation. We told like whatever the universe presents us, we'll take it. We went. Uh amazing. It's called Punch, and it's getting a ton of Tony Buzz for next year. Uh it is about a and it's based on a real life person who uh was growing up. I I think it's like in London, uh, and he you know got mixed up with the wrong crowd. He lands one punch at a bar fight type of thing. That kid falls, hits his head, and ends up dying. Oh, wow. And he gets charged with like manslaughter, goes to prison, turns his life around, and it's all about the dynamics of his family, his own life, his journey. It was just we were bawling. Really? People around us were bawling. Like this man next to us put his hood up to cover his face. Like everybody, it was oh wow, it was incredible. The next day we backed it up with the musical and we saw MJ, which is the Michael Jackson, yeah. That's been around since like 2022, I think is what it means.

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No, I've seen the Cirque Soleil, the Cirque de Soleil one, but I have not seen the musical.

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I feel like I was watching Michael Jackson concert. Was it that? And then it he was so amazing and spot on, like it just it felt like you were transported to a time. Yeah, love it, and it uh um all of his music, it was so great. Okay, I gotta tell this one story. So while we're listening to the music, all of a sudden, she's out of my life comes on. And I I start, I'm I'm watching the show, and Missy Melissa is sitting next to me, and I start to kind of giggle to myself, and I'm like, I've got to whisper this to Melissa next to me. And I didn't know that she didn't know, but I'm like, why is she not reacting to this? Well, Megan has told me her whole life, she's a huge Michael Jackson fan, but she told me her whole life that when she dies at her funeral, she wants Michael Jackson to play. She's out of my life. And I'm always like, Megan, really? You want me to be at your funeral? And it's like, she's out of my life. And I whispered it to Missy, and she goes, What? She goes, What? And I'm like, This is the song Megan wants at her. She started like shoulder laughing. We were laughing. She was crying. She was laughing so hard. You know how you're in those situations where I mean it wasn't a funny part.

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No, because then yeah, it's like our shoulders are going up and down.

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We are laughing. It was so funny. It was so funny. Oh my god. And that's true, story, right?

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Michael gift that just keeps giving.

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Do you still want that plate at your funeral? Oh my god, I'm gonna make your wish come walk. Hopefully.

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Oh my god.

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Maddie told me this story um when he got back, and I I didn't even know this song at all. So I didn't have to play it. It's a nice song.

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It's well, I mean, most of Michael's songs.

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She's out of my life. Like to symbolize your death. Like she's gone, she's out of my life.

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Like good written. Well, then you have some drinks and have fun.

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Yeah. So it's a win win. Oh my god. Oh.

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So anyway, that was um the Michael. Do you want to address the smelly Michael in the room?

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I don't need to address it, but apparently Lionel Ritchie feels like he needs to, and he's trying to sell books. So for anyone who hasn't heard, Lionel Ritchie has a memoir out, and he has chosen to make comments about Michael in there that's like the news, the news, and media are all reporting on like their news stories. But honestly, these are stories that have been around for years that Michael has addressed and talked about in his book, Moonwalker. So one of them is that um Quincy Jones would call Michael Smelly Michael because Michael lots of times would just like a self-explanatory article. Well, he would dance all night, he wouldn't change his clothes, he'd go in the studio. Lots of times, throw on clothes. Lots of times he'd just without showering. No, yeah. He and like so he smelled, and so Quincy started calling him Smelly Michael, which he loved and laughed and thought was the funny thing. I think it probably started like off the wall. I think he started after Quincy started commenting about his smell. Then I think he started getting his shit together.

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Okay.

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Um, but anyway, people are like, oh, Michael Jackson smelled, and then Lionel made some offhand comment, like, oh, well, Michael just threw on whatever. And, you know, so people think his white socks are so iconic, and that was just him throwing on whatever. But that is actually true. But like Michael talked about in Moonwalker how he, you know, didn't pay attention to his clothes, and sometimes his pants were too short because he'd outgrown them. But he would see dancing, then he'd have white socks on, and how when he'd kick his leg up, your eye would be would like go to his white socks. So then he's like, Oh, I kind of like these short pants where you can see my white socks. So when I dance, you see all this white.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And then when I do kicks, your eyes are drawn to it. And then he carried that same thought over with his. He used to bandage his fingers a lot with white tape.

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I always liked that.

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And it was, he said, because then he would point and your eye was drawn to the tip of his finger. So cool. So he'd have the whites on both like the feet and the fingers. So when he was dancing and moving, people's eyes would be drawn.

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Total sense.

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And it would also accentuate different dance moves.

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Well, both of those things were on display in this musical. Oh, really?

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Talking about a stan standing for her ultimate fan right here. Oh, standing. Yeah, yeah.

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Well, she also save the record straight. You know why she's coming to such defense is because this is also you guys go back to future or past episode when she got class trendsetter because she was wearing these penny loafers with white socks and short jeans. So she is protecting her own legacy. I feel like Lionel did not come for Michael.

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Well, Lionel's trying to sell books, and so he's trying to say, like, watch the slander things about Michael.

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Can we throw in the allegedly?

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Well, no, that's these are quotes from this book that Lionel wrote in his.

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Did Lionel say I'm telling you this because I'm trying to sell books? Well, no, that's what I'm talking about. Okay.

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And then the media is not like going back to like, oh, these are old stories that have been around. It's here to protect you forever.

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I'm just making sure Lionel doesn't come for you.

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Lionel, I'm a big fan. You don't need to like say salacious things about Michael to sell books. You can just sell them on your own history and human being that you are.

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Look into the camera and tell Lionel exactly what you want to do.

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Well, I love Lionel, and he's a highlight on American Idol for me. So I was sad.

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I do appreciate Lionel and American Idol. Except for when it stands. Well, talking about show business, I do have to say that I was down for the count this past week because I was very, very sick. But something that brought me to live was the live of a showgirl.

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No, that just dropped.

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That just dropped today.

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You just dropped it.

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I dropped that, yes.

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I mean, you and every other American. Well, every other American.

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Yeah, I I I are you guys excited about the life of the showgirl? Like you listened to the album already? I did listen. Okay. You haven't. I did.

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It's so I'm not the biggest. I mean, I I I like some songs, but I'm not, I wouldn't call myself a Taylor fan, but I'm not a Taylor hater.

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I don't think I'm a Swifty, I'm a Swifty adjacent, but I think that I would just say that this album is probably on my top three uh Taylor Swift albums.

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Oh, I know that's exciting. I do like I did listen to it. I didn't there wasn't one song that I listened to that I didn't like. Some of them I actually didn't like the beginning, and then as as it built, I'm like, because she to me is one of the all-time greatest songwriters. Love her music or don't love her music or love her voice or don't love her. Like she can write. Yeah. I mean, her lyrics are pretty off the charts.

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And I'm glad that you mentioned that, Maddie, because so far I do like them all. Um, but my favorite is All Polite. Um that I think that song really made me cry for some reason. Um, it kind of is like the song that I needed to hear to get you out of your sinus infection.

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I don't know.

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I I just thought again, going back to her lyrics and her words, um, I did there was a specific that I wanted to just you know mention, a specific lyric that that she mentions there that I think that that is like what much choked me up a little bit. She's like, I'm and I quote, um, but my mama told me it's alright. You were dancing to the lightning strikes, sleepless in the onyx night, but now this guy is all polite.

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Wow.

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Like the way that she combines all the words, I think that she's just brilliant. Um, in how she's I mean, she's like a literacy is really taking the time to understand and take us in a journey. Um, and I think that it's it's just it's a masterpiece.

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Just yeah, along those lines, like because my dick is bigger. I mean, that also that that's father figure track number three, I believe.

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Yeah, I think so. But yeah, you're like wow, I mean she's taking us on a journey. Took about a turn, yeah.

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Well, Opalite supposedly is about Travis Kelsey, yeah. And father figures supposedly about uh Scooter Braun and then the other guy that was in charge of her career early on that basically screwed her over by selling off her music. Yeah, so I think in the end because she got her music back, is why she says her dick is bigger.

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Yeah, honorable. And I think it's great. And it also has like a nod to George Michael, which is like she had to pay for some rights. But if you listen to the song, I mean she said, I'll be your father figure. That's where the as far as the lyrics part go, yeah. That's the only similarity between the two songs. But like I think, yeah.

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I wish she sampled father figure in there.

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I kind of do too.

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Yeah, I was expecting that when I s heard that title.

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I don't know if she's gonna do that, but I something tells me that two months from now we're gonna get a you know, the life of a chill girl deluxe version. Because this one's only 13 songs. We come in from like the you know, uh the previous album that had like 27 songs, I think so. Around that.

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She's not like a vault of these songs because like she just has a natural talent. Like, I think she's writing constantly. Yeah. So there's just like all of this music, I think, that she just has and she dusts off, and you know, one day when she passes and she's out of our life they probably like they do nowadays, where like, oh, we found a new song from the Beatles, and like, or whatever, you know, so they'll probably be this.

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Yeah, probably.

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Yeah, like, yeah.

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Well, I think that's a lot of your artists who write their own music are always like remember in the um MM documentary, you see his notes where it's all these notes, and like the hitmakers, they're always like writing in their notepads and writing their books.

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Show us her like I that's why I write in my podcast book, and it's called The Creative Ramblings of a Restless Mind. And I am on page 22, episode 22. When that's how I work.

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Uh the listening room in Nashville, the artist who had written a song for uh Blake Shelton, Jay Brunswick, said he they had a situation where their artists they were supposed to write with canceled, and they're like, Well, we're gonna write anyway. And some other songwriter, his artist canceled. So, like the three of them got together and said, Let's just write together today. And the guys came in and said, I have this whole idea of like uh that's been rumbling around in my head of like you just have this keychain with a bunch of old keys on it. And so they wrote this song called Keys, which was became a song that Blake Shelton put on his album. So interesting stories of like they just sometimes like I've had this kind of thinking about this, like this old keychain, and then they would just write a song about it. And the guy you could have had it sitting around for a while. It's just a note in your notebook.

SPEAKER_00: 26:13

You know, I think that that's the beauty of like songwriting, which we all love. Uh and Taylor Swift does it perfectly.

SPEAKER_01: 26:19

Well, and it's she's basically putting her own life experiences out in like she's telling the story of her life through her music. Yeah, yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00: 26:28

So I love it. I'm ready, yeah. Dear John, okay.

SPEAKER_01: 26:34

All right, today is October 3rd. Yeah. The life of a show girl. The life of a showgirl. If you're not a Swifty or you are a Swifty, there's also something else that dropped, and as the resident true crime lover put me down. Huh? True crime stand. I'm a true crime stan. Monster, the Ed Gain story, dropped today on Netflix. It's an eight-episode series. And if you don't know Ed Gain, you're not alone. For whatever reason, he is not really like notorious in terms of like if you were to say Jeffrey Dahmer or Ted Bundy. Um, but everyone probably knows Texas Chainsaw Massacre or Silence of the Lambs and the classic psycho. Well, all three of those movies were apparently inspired by this Ed Gain.

SPEAKER_00: 27:38

Oh, really? Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 27:40

Yes. And from a standpoint of like notorious killers, a lot of times they have killed multiple people. In this case, they have only been able to prove that Ed Gain killed two women. And he is suspected of killing more. There were other women that went missing in the area. It was Minnesota, right? Wisconsin. Wisconsin, yes, Wisconsin. Um, but there were other women that went missing.

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Never found, never.

SPEAKER_01: 28:16

Well, I mean, they don't really even, I don't even know who necessarily they are.

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Seven women that have gone missing that they believe he may have killed. Okay.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_06: 28:26

Yeah. So, and for anyone who doesn't know, Monster is part of Ryan Murphy. He's the producer of it. So this is in his monster series. So he's also the one that did the Menendez brothers on Netflix.

SPEAKER_00: 28:41

And Jeffrey Dahmer.

SPEAKER_06: 28:42

And the Jeffrey Dahmer one on Netflix. So now they're taking on the Ed Gain story.

SPEAKER_00: 28:47

So this is the third one.

SPEAKER_06: 28:48

The third one. Correct. And I wasn't like, I was like, oh, I don't know that name. So I had to do some research a little bit about him. And the reason he inspired specifically what I remember the most is Silence of the Lambs, where they had that Buffalo Bill character who was like finding women who are a size 14 because he was skinning them to make it well.

SPEAKER_01: 29:13

He was starving them to lose weight so that their skin would then be like loose enough.

SPEAKER_06: 29:19

Yeah. And then he was skinning them whatever to make a suit. And apparently, this is what this Ed Gain was doing. Like he said that after his mother died, he Augusta was his mother.

SPEAKER_01: 29:31

Oh, okay. Augusta.

SPEAKER_06: 29:32

He began to create a woman's suit so that he could become his mother, he said, to literally crawl into her skin.

SPEAKER_01: 29:39

So that's where the cycle piece is connected. If you watch that classic, like he the mother-son relationship there. And then obviously the leather piece of it. And he like one of these well, we should say that in addition, so I we always like to give proper recognition or give names to the The victims, right? So the Mary Hogan and Bernice Warden were the two that they were able to link him uh unequivocally to. Uh but uh he would use uh the skin from these women, but then he would also go up and gravedig.

SPEAKER_06: 30:19

So he dozens of grave sites, he would dig up bodies to then I don't know where he How would he know that the skin was ready on those bodies that were well he they were recently like they would be bodies that would recently that got buried and then he'd go because he like like they when they searched his house, um they found a wastebasket made of human skin. They found human skin, yeah, covering several chairs.

SPEAKER_01: 30:51

Yeah, it's yeah, yeah. So I think like anything though, like when you say you don't know, like how would he know? Like if it once you do it once and you're like, oh, this is the shape I found this body, like he probably crafted, like you know, got better and better. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_06: 31:07

And he was uh he specifically targeted middle-aged women. So it would be middle-aged women who died in like three different cities around. He'd go to the grave sites and dig them up. Yeah, and here's just like let me just go through because like I didn't know him by the way.

SPEAKER_01: 31:26

Yes.

SPEAKER_06: 31:27

So like so he had bowls made from human skulls, a corset made from a female torso, skin from shoulders to waist, leggings made from human like skin, masks made from the skin of female heads, female skulls, some with the top sewn off, human skulls mounted on bedposts. He had Bernice Warden's heart in a plastic bag in front of his pop belly stove. He had nine vulvas in a shoebox. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05: 32:01

He had a belt made from nine vulvas and your shoebox.

SPEAKER_01: 32:06

Yeah, well, he had I don't even know what if I saw a vulva, I wouldn't even know. Would you be able to point one out?

SPEAKER_00: 32:12

Well no, he was trying to get American. What? American from the vulva. No hair.

SPEAKER_06: 32:18

I know the vulva is not the hairy part, it's the whole the lips part.

SPEAKER_00: 32:23

Oh, the lips. Are you talking about the carve? The vulva? No, the the hair. Okay, we're okay carry on, please.

SPEAKER_06: 32:30

A belt made from female human nipples. He had four noses, he had a pair of lips on a window shade draw skirt string. Uh you said earlier a lampshade made from the skin of a human face, and he had fingernails from female fingers around the house.

SPEAKER_01: 32:49

I mean, are you ready for this, JJ?

SPEAKER_00: 32:52

Yeah, I don't know. I'm committed, I'm committed to it. And for those listening, like out of Megan, Maddie and me, like I'm the scary cat when it comes to this type of story. I I love the way that Ryan Murphy tells a story, and I love the you know, Jeffrey Dahmer. I did it. I might have to be on cue, like either Abbott Elementary or the Paper.

SPEAKER_01: 33:17

Right, something to cleanse your cleanse your palate after.

SPEAKER_00: 33:20

Yeah, because it's just too heavy.

SPEAKER_06: 33:21

Well, and this all happened in like the mid to late 50s.

SPEAKER_01: 33:24

I and I will say, uh, when you say Ryan Murphy and how he tells the story, I will just say, I mean, if people haven't watched the other two, like it's rooted in it's rooted in facts, but they take a lot of creative liberties and there is a blurring between faction fact and fiction. But I mean, you just saw you just got the facts from me.

SPEAKER_06: 33:47

So like I I mean the facts are crazy on their own.

SPEAKER_01: 33:51

So like I don't know what the show's gonna bring, if but like it's I I it's sitting in there right now. I want to click on it and watch it right now if we weren't recording.

SPEAKER_06: 34:01

Well, and for my reality fans out there, Love is Blind also just dropped the new season that's based in Duncan.

SPEAKER_00: 34:09

That'll be a great way to get reality. I love Love is Blind.

SPEAKER_01: 34:13

I've never watched it, but I might start watching it just because if you watch that game, I don't even know if I want to go on a date.

SPEAKER_00: 34:18

Like, you know, it's kind of like well, I'll for sure watch it during the day.

SPEAKER_06: 34:22

Well, there's something interesting that I I'll be curious to see if this gets put into the series because it's it's interesting and anecdotal. But uh the last woman that is how they caught him because they were searching for her and he had seen he was shopping in her store right before she disappeared. I remember that. Um, which was I think her name, Bernice Warden. And so they went to his house to talk to him or whatever, and found her basically hung up and up like you hang up a deer.

SPEAKER_02: 34:52

Okay, and her head was chopped off, and he was by the pop pot belly stove. Yeah, that was the heart, I don't know. Her heart, yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 34:59

But anyway, so she was hanging in his shed.

SPEAKER_01: 35:01

But tomato, tomato.

SPEAKER_06: 35:03

So that's when it all started, and they arrested him and everything else. But what happened later was they wanted to get rid of his property because he owned his house and land, and they didn't want it to turn into a tourist attraction or whatever. So when they they were gonna auction it off, and they had to clean one to clean it out completely. So they hired this cleaning crew who was like taking a bunch of junk and stuff and burning it.

SPEAKER_02: 35:30

Yeah, no, no one's in there. The things they're burning, it's human flesh that can't smell great.

SPEAKER_06: 35:36

So they're burning stuff, and apparently they were burning it on some burn site or burn barrels in uh on his property, and somehow the house caught on fire.

SPEAKER_03: 35:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 35:48

And ended up burning to the ground. But what's interesting is they're like, it's odd that the where they were burning, like how this house could really catch fire and people suspected it was arson. Well, nothing was really done about it because surprise, surprise, the fire chief was the son of Bernice Warden, who was his victim that got him arrested.

SPEAKER_00: 36:10

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_06: 36:11

So it's just kind of interesting because then they're like, Well, did the fire chief even kind of make it so that it all just burned up?

SPEAKER_01: 36:17

Right. And like, even if he didn't start it, he wasn't quick to go put it out.

SPEAKER_06: 36:22

Correct. Or to investigate was it really our sin? Because, or maybe he even hired some. Who knows? Like, who knows? It's in I don't know if they'll show that, but it was just interesting that like these were small towns in Wisconsin, and like the fire chief was the son of the last victim.

SPEAKER_00: 36:38

We're in for the ride. Oh my god. I know. I need something lighter now. Can we just switch? Sure. How about uh you want for something sweet?

SPEAKER_01: 36:46

You want an MM?

unknown: 36:48

Yes, please.

SPEAKER_00: 36:49

Okay, let's change it for sure.

SPEAKER_01: 36:51

All right, all right. That'll cleanse the palate a little bit. So I mentioned earlier in the episode in New York, uh, we went to the large MM store. MM as in not stan, but MM as in candy, melts in your mouth, not in your hands.

SPEAKER_06: 37:07

I thought you were gonna say MM, not as in Megan and Maddie.

SPEAKER_01: 37:10

Oh I mean the branding is all over the place. So yeah, so I noticed two MM flavors at the store that I had never seen before, and one is right on brand for the season. It is pumpkin pie, and I think you know, people are either on one side of the pumpkin or on the other, so we'll get into that. And the other one is caramel caramel do you say caramel or caramel? How do you say it?

SPEAKER_06: 37:39

I sometimes switch it back and forth. I typically say caramel, but sometimes I like to say caramel just because it's fun.

SPEAKER_02: 37:46

Oh, do you say it caramel? Yeah, you know what? There's three of that caramel.

SPEAKER_01: 37:54

There's when you said it caramel, there's three. There's caramel, caramel, or caramel.

SPEAKER_00: 38:00

I do say it. Wait, what do you mean?

SPEAKER_01: 38:04

I think that was number two.

SPEAKER_06: 38:05

Is it caramel?

SPEAKER_01: 38:07

Caramel or caramel, caramel, caramel, caramel.

SPEAKER_06: 38:12

There, I feel like the two caramels are the same.

SPEAKER_01: 38:15

Can we add it? I think we got it. All right, so caramel cold brew. So it's caramel coffee, really, like a caramel macchiato, I guess, would be the equivalent, right?

SPEAKER_06: 38:28

Yeah, no, because cold brew is cold brew. Oh, like it's its own coffee category.

SPEAKER_01: 38:33

All right. Well, I'm not a connoisseur of that. So, all right. So have you tried them? They're in front of us. Do you want to pop one in your mouth?

SPEAKER_06: 38:42

I've had them. I tried them both. I will say the pumpkin pie doesn't taste like pumpkin much at all. Like it's hardly do taste any pumpkin.

SPEAKER_00: 38:54

I agree with that.

SPEAKER_06: 38:55

So for me, who's not really a pumpkin pie lover, I enjoy them, but I don't know if I had a regular MM with this next to the pumpkin pie, if I could tell the two apart. That's how little you'll taste the pumpkin pie.

SPEAKER_01: 39:10

I kind of agree. I think the pumpkin came in at the end of the experience when it's melting in my mouth. I liked it, but again, I it didn't seem pumpkin forward to me.

SPEAKER_06: 39:23

Yeah. And the caramel cold brew, I thought was I'm sorry, I've got caramel cold brew in my throat. Yeah. So the the caramel cold brew is very coffee forward. It is coffee forward. So if you don't like coffee, you're not gonna like it.

SPEAKER_00: 39:43

I do like the texture. Yeah, different textures to it, and I don't remember tasting a different MM with a chewy texture in the middle. Like I like the peanut butter, the peanut. I like the peanut MMs, one of my favorite.

SPEAKER_01: 40:01

Those are dangerous.

SPEAKER_00: 40:02

Because of the crunchiness of the peanut. This one with the chewiness of the caramel. You like it? So good. And I am a big pumpkin pie aficionado. Like that's probably one of my favorite desserts. Um, and I did not tell us.

SPEAKER_01: 40:18

Sorry. What? My god, no, please. I was just so sorry. I was so quick to get to Megan's. I want a Megan's take on pumpkin pie.

SPEAKER_00: 40:28

Well, she kind of went over the phone.

SPEAKER_01: 40:29

Do you remember what she said earlier? If I don't have another piece of pumpkin pie in my entire life, she'll be fine.

SPEAKER_00: 40:36

She'll be fine.

SPEAKER_02: 40:37

I will be.

SPEAKER_06: 40:38

I've not I'm not a pumpkin pie girl.

SPEAKER_01: 40:40

So this time of year must be something. I mean, it's pumpkin everything.

SPEAKER_06: 40:44

Yeah. And you'll likely hear me say, I'm my pull it out is pumpkin pie or pumpkin spice. I'm over it.

SPEAKER_00: 40:51

Oh, pumpkin spice. Don't get me into that. I will, I will, even though I'm a lover of pumpkin sp uh pumpkin pie, pumpkin pumpkin spice flavor, I'm out.

SPEAKER_01: 41:02

No. Me too. What about pumpkin candle scents? Do you like that scent?

SPEAKER_00: 41:06

I can tolerate some of it. Do you like that scent? Mix it up with vanilla.

SPEAKER_01: 41:10

Yeah, if it has a little vanilla. I'm pretty much I'm full in on pumps, pumpkins. Full in. Really?

SPEAKER_06: 41:18

So you'll order a pumpkin pie or a pumpkin spice. I don't anything.

SPEAKER_01: 41:23

I don't really like the texture of pumpkin pie. So I guess you're not into pumpkin pie then.

SPEAKER_02: 41:30

You don't like the texture. Oh god.

SPEAKER_01: 41:33

I find things out about myself in real time. Pumpkin MM, I'm out. Well, you don't caramel. Can I clarify?

SPEAKER_00: 41:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 41:42

You liked it, but you didn't get the pumpkin, so therefore it's disqualified. Or did you not like it at all?

SPEAKER_00: 41:48

It doesn't live to the expectation. That's fair. So it's nothing does it doesn't do anything to me. And also, you know, there we don't we have no viewers, but I do like a larger MM, like the Well, that's larger than the regular M. I know, but if you can compare the two, the caramel one is a little larger.

SPEAKER_06: 42:08

Well, the caramel one I'll tell for the listeners is like a peanut MM size.

SPEAKER_00: 42:13

Just like it, yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 42:14

And then like the pumpkin pie one is more the size of a peanut butter MM. No, peanut butter MM. Okay. Which is bigger than a traditional MM. So I think caramel cold brew, if you like coffee, you'll like it.

SPEAKER_01: 42:32

You have to try it. I don't know where we find them.

SPEAKER_06: 42:34

The chewy caramel is really good, and they do make a regular caramel MM.

SPEAKER_01: 42:38

Oh, they do?

SPEAKER_06: 42:38

Yeah. And I haven't had it in a long time, so I can't remember if it has that chewy caramel in it or not, which I also really enjoyed.

SPEAKER_00: 42:45

Yeah, I might add it in a recipe for Megan for our cookies if I see uh an a caramel.

SPEAKER_06: 42:50

That's uh intent.

SPEAKER_00: 42:53

This is good. This is a good review.

SPEAKER_06: 42:54

Well, so anyway, check it out. I mean, who doesn't love an MM? And these are fresh from the MM store, which if people don't know, MMs has an amazing website, and you can go on and create special mixes. You can pick your colors, you can put different letters, different pictures on your MMs, like you can customize them to the hilt.

SPEAKER_01: 43:16

Just so you know, in the store, you could do it right there. You could stand in front of like the cameras and do all this stuff, and like they had, yeah, it was three levels.

SPEAKER_06: 43:25

Where are the other locations of the MM stores? I know there's a few around. We don't have one in Detroit.

SPEAKER_01: 43:31

We do not have that information.

SPEAKER_06: 43:33

Okay. Wow.

SPEAKER_05: 43:34

So go to the website and have your way with it.

SPEAKER_06: 43:38

Yeah, have your way with it. I think it's time for some slip it ins and pull it out. And my slip it in is kind of a thank you. So it's a thank you to Maddie. Oh so we've been having a lot of ongoing discussions.

SPEAKER_01: 43:55

This is out of the blue.

SPEAKER_06: 43:56

Well, because it literally happened tonight. Oh no, and um basically there's been lots of discussions because the new iPhones just got announced in September. And I was adamant this year I was getting a new iPhone because I have a 12 and I need to upgrade, but I keep putting it on because the new iPhones did not hold much new things were exciting for me. And I really, really want a folding iPhone. And every year, keep getting teased that this is the year that the folding iPhone's coming out. Well, I thought it would be this year, it did not. They're saying next year, but then when you read the fine print, it sounds like it could even be end of next year, early 27. So that's it. I'm done. I'm gonna get the new iPhone. Maddie convinced me because there's all these fun Apple AI things you can use if you have the new software, which my phone is so old, I can't get I can get the new software, but I don't get all the Apple AI upgrades that you would get.

SPEAKER_01: 45:05

Stop waiting for the flip, which is fine if you want that. But then I did a quick search because I'm like, girl, as we as you say in the past with your 12 and they keep coming out with more, there's gonna be a point where the software is not gonna be compatible. So I did I did educate a little bit.

SPEAKER_06: 45:24

Well, and my software can be upgraded to the new one. It just don't get all the good fun AI stuff, right? Which I'm really enjoying, a little chat GPT or AI whenever I can get it. There's so much and we are enjoying that too.

SPEAKER_01: 45:36

I'm just learning. So we need you to have access to that. I like it. Sorry. No, I'm you're fine. I no, it's good. Good, good.

SPEAKER_06: 45:43

So my slipping it in is I'm gonna get the new iPhone. So I'll no longer have the oldest iPhone in the room with my 12.

SPEAKER_00: 45:55

You have a pullout?

SPEAKER_06: 45:56

Yep, I have a pull out. So my pull it out is your 12. Well, that probably should be. Sorry, sorry, sorry. But I'm okay with the 12 until I learned about all the Apple AI features. But anyway, I was shopping and this just makes me so angry. Is when there's baggers and they're like, oh, what kind of bag do you want? You tell them. Um they bag everything, and then you are pushing your cart out and you look down. Well, they choose not to bag a box of soda or a milk carton or laundry detergent thing. Anything with a handle, they're not bagging. And it irritates me because I can't carry four bags and then carry something by a handle. Like I want those things bagged as well.

SPEAKER_01: 46:47

You put it in the cart. No, you can't.

SPEAKER_06: 46:49

I I like it whether it's you have I usually put the cart where it goes and carry the bags because I don't usually I buy small loads usually, so I can carry a few bags in my hands, but not when they've got soda boxes and milk jugs that they don't put in a bag. So those things you can't carry plus like four bags at the same time. So whether it's to my car or not, yeah, I could take the car, but then when I get home, I can't make it all in unless I have multiple trips in the house.

SPEAKER_01: 47:21

And I'm usually taking more than one trip. I try to do the one trip.

SPEAKER_06: 47:26

And I really try to maximize everything I can to get in with one trip. Yeah. So that's my irritation is like just because it has a built-in handle doesn't mean a bag isn't warranted. And if you're not gonna bag it, and I've you said please bag it and use this type of bag, I feel like they should just be bagging my items or they should ask me, should we bag it or not?

SPEAKER_03: 47:48

Okay, got it.

SPEAKER_06: 47:49

Come on, over yep, I'll come on over and I'm gonna come on over with one load in. You know, oh whoa.

SPEAKER_03: 47:57

That's what he said.

SPEAKER_01: 47:59

Oh, wow. You or me, JJ. Okay. So I heard this uh in my feed. I was going through content, and you if you if you know, like I'm just as guilty, I'm gonna say this up front. I'm just as guilty as JJ and Megan. We sometimes will talk over each other, we sometimes interrupt, and I think this phrase is perfect for us. It's goes like this Did the middle of my sentence interrupt the beginning of yours? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 48:37

That's your slipping in.

SPEAKER_01: 48:39

That's my slipping in, because it's like, oh my god, that's my life. I'm halfway through my thought, and then somebody else, you guys start speaking to me, and I'm like, oh, did the middle of my sentence interrupt the beginning of yours?

SPEAKER_00: 48:52

But I gotta say, like, Maddie, like to the listeners, this is really who we are in the pod and outside of the pod. Well, yeah, all the time.

SPEAKER_01: 49:00

Well, I love it, and it's it's I want it to like be on my tomb.

SPEAKER_06: 49:06

All right, well, I'll oh well, let I'll be curious to ever see if you use it.

SPEAKER_01: 49:10

Well, you'll be out of my life.

SPEAKER_06: 49:12

So before excuse me, okay.

SPEAKER_01: 49:17

My pull it out is this to me is a red flag on the dating apps. Anyone that under their occupation says self-employed. I an entrepreneur, they don't know how to spell entrepreneur, they do self-employed, they do self-employed, and I'm like, what does that mean? Like, I get it. If you are a owner, a CEO of your own company, I'm sure you're gonna be like CEO of my own company. Self-employed is like you are selling shit on marketplace or whatever, you're making your living on like you know, screen printing your own t-shirts.

SPEAKER_00: 50:01

But you usually usually do you know what they sell? Bitcoin.

SPEAKER_01: 50:05

Oh god, yeah. Bitcoin is another one, it's just red flags all over the place. However, I just want to just say I don't see that anymore right now because I am off the apps. Wow. So no more, no more of that, no more of that. Uh I decided October 1st. Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_00: 50:26

I went off of that October 3rd, October 1st.

SPEAKER_01: 50:29

Correct. I dropped two days before.

SPEAKER_00: 50:31

Yeah, do you don't want to tailor and like yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 50:34

I'm off the apps. My goal is, and I'm gonna give you a little background on why I made my choices. I haven't told you guys this yet. I'm gonna come back on in the new year. The last quarter of the year, people get into relationships for the wrong reasons. Yeah. Both like from my standpoint, the holidays, you don't want to be alone, so you start like making uh what sacrifices, or you're like, well, I'll settle because I don't want to be alone. And then people on the receiving end are kind of the same. So you could find yourself in like a holiday relationship.

SPEAKER_00: 51:12

Yeah, so it's just that it's kind of like a pull out and a slip it in at the same time, media theater.

SPEAKER_01: 51:18

Well, I'm here.

SPEAKER_06: 51:20

Well, isn't that called isn't it called um snowmanning or snow globing?

SPEAKER_02: 51:26

I don't know.

SPEAKER_06: 51:26

There's a term, there's a term for the like holiday relationships and they're like, it's some sense. It's something like that.

SPEAKER_00: 51:35

You might want to boop booop boop. It's coffee season.

SPEAKER_01: 51:38

But I will say just what I will also say coming back on in January, I'm hoping I'll come in as fresh and new. I'm collecting great photos for the next three months for my for a refresh of my photos. And then in the new year, other people that might be interested in might also be like, it's the year of 2026, I'm putting myself out there. So that's it. That's that's my life of showman. Showgirl.

SPEAKER_06: 52:07

Okay, so it's called Holiday Snowball, or also known as Snow Globing and Snowmanning. You were gonna be able to do that. So we were all right.

SPEAKER_01: 52:14

We were all three of us. I'm doing it. I am snowballing. I'm snowballing it.

SPEAKER_00: 52:21

I love it, I love it. Um my slip it in is that by the time that this episode air, um October 11th has passed pass, and October 11th is the national coming out day. Oh. And I want to, you know, encourage our community to continue to support us. I think that is a beautiful thing that we have that day to recognize us that have been able to do that. Um, there's many that are still quiet about it. Um, and if you're listening, we hear you, we are stand with you. I know it's going to be hard, but living your authentic self is the best thing that could ever happen to your life. Uh I tell it by experience. Maddie is, you know, also being, you know, in the you know, coming out, you know, side of things, me coming out later on um it was hard, but life does get better. Life does get better. And I think that that is my slip it in uh for today.

SPEAKER_06: 53:31

I love that. I will just yeah. Well, I think it deserves a little come on over.

SPEAKER_00: 53:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 53:38

And I was just gonna say, um, in New York I went to Stonewall.

SPEAKER_00: 53:42

Oh you did.

SPEAKER_01: 53:43

Yeah. Yeah, and it was so amazing to I had never done that. And so, like, that's such a historical And what is snow Stonewall. Stonewall, sorry. I know what it is.

SPEAKER_06: 53:55

I know what I'm too caught up in the snowballs.

SPEAKER_01: 53:57

That's like where really the activism and the riots, uh like the first brick was thrown, and that's like in New York City, and that's where like the trans community and the gay community like had an uprising, and they it's really a pivotal moment in our history, and which you know, like kind of came out from behind the curtain and you know, out of the closet, I guess if you will. And started to like from there, you know, marches ensued, and there were a lot of key figures in the community. But yeah. So it was it was I you know, just to sit in there at the bar and have a drink up at the bar, and it was just pretty cool pretty amazing. So I love your submitted. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 54:40

And my pull it out is uh Jennifer Hudson show Spirit Tunnel. I don't know if you've seen videos of it. It's annoying. They they're she's got their staff in this tunnel or this hallway singing they made up songs for the artists and celebrities to go in before they jump in into the interview. It's so annoying. Shouldn't you be working?

SPEAKER_06: 55:06

Well, it's just that I've seen videos of this like on Instagram and TikTok, and I think it looks really cool. Like and I think if I was gonna be on the show and I got to walk through that, it would be so uplifting and fun.

SPEAKER_00: 55:21

Well, the celebrity doesn't even know what the song is gonna they're gonna sing. There is a made-up song of sometimes their head, sometimes something about their name. And you can see some of the celebrities like doing like this awkward dance or like trying to be happy about it. Um, I just find it very annoying.

SPEAKER_01: 55:38

I don't really I love Jennifer Hudson as a singer. I'm not a big fan of her as a talk show host, so yeah. You got my bolt. Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 55:49

That's my pull out.

SPEAKER_06: 55:50

Well, I'd be curious to know how you'd feel about it if you were actually going on the show and got to walk through the stuff. Well, I mean, I that's a different story.

unknown: 55:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 56:00

He'd be like, I love your spirit tunnel.

SPEAKER_00: 56:02

There's only one celebrity that has like denied being on the tunnel. Oh, really? Who? Yeah, the the guy from the pit, uh Noah Wiley. Yeah, really?

SPEAKER_06: 56:11

He said no, I'm not doing it. That's odd. I'm surprised.

SPEAKER_00: 56:15

He just felt very uncomfortable about it. Because he's not even in like he's not a singer. It's like, what are they gonna talk about? Because they just chant things about it.

SPEAKER_01: 56:22

But you can chant all sorts of stuff.

SPEAKER_00: 56:24

Like I agree with him.

SPEAKER_06: 56:26

Megan, I can't imagine you'd be like, no, not doing it. Oh, I would do it 100%. You would I just saw Jessica Simpson walk through this week. Yeah. And she are you guys watching this show?

SPEAKER_00: 56:38

Are you guys no? I'm not watching the show. I'm just for some reason I get videos of this tunnel.

SPEAKER_06: 56:44

They show it, it's on like social media all the time. Like the artists of who go through it. And it looks kind of fun.

SPEAKER_00: 56:50

Not to me. Well, that's my pull-up.

SPEAKER_01: 56:53

Okay, I think this is we're gonna cue Megan to give out all of our information. It's gonna be take some notes because it's a rattle, rattle, rattle off.

SPEAKER_06: 57:02

Well, we're gonna combat it. Yeah, the next time we're coming back to you, we'll be in Houston. True. But in the meantime, you can see everything we talked about on our link tree. You can get links to everything that uh we put out there. So check us out on our link tree at slip it in podcast. You can always reach out to us in the meantime with your comments, your self-help questions, whatever you need by slipping into our DMs on Instagram, TikTok, X, and Facebook. We're known as Slip Itin Podcast. You can also email us at slipitinpodcast at gmail.com. And we always love a call or a text at 313-444-9004. And remember, whenever you reach out, don't forget to leave your name and where you are from. Till next time, from Houston.

SPEAKER_04: 57:56

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