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Dainty Burger Bites, Carolyn Bissett Beauty, and Roadkill Cuisine
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We chase the truth behind changing Reeses recipes, then ride the viral wave of the “dainty bite” burger wars between McDonalds, Burger King, and Wendys. That somehow spirals into a wild detour through roadkill cuisine, offal, and the questionable delicacies people swear by before we reset with style, wellness, and a curated nod to Carolyn Bessette’s quiet luxury. Sharp takes, weird food detours, and some practical upgrades round it out.
• shaped Reeses candies taste flatter and waxier than originals
• cocoa price spikes and cost-cutting implications
• Michelin-tier chocolate “experience” as spectacle versus flavor
• big-bite vs dainty-bite CEOs and brand authenticity
• how virality rewards mess, confidence, and timing
• mukbang and ASMR as sensory and social comfort
• roadkill cuisine and offal culture, safety and naming
• Carolyn Bessette’s 90s minimalism and quiet luxury
• curated Linktree of CBK-inspired staples
• quick hits: swimming over running, blinker etiquette, new words, sound baths, ditch the wet rag
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Taste Test: Reese’s And Snickers
Speaker 4Slippers unite it's time to play. We bring a spice to your work or your day, confessions, debates, and a product or two. We slip it in just for you. You laugh, you cringe, you'll beg for more with a guilty pleasure.
Speaker 5You can welcome, welcome, welcome, everyone. We are back slipping it in with you. I'm Egan.
Speaker 1I'm again. Matty here.
Speaker 5Hello.
Speaker 1Jay here.
Speaker 5Hello, hello. Well, slippers, if you heard our last episode, you know we brought up all of this Reese's peanut butter cup controversy where Brad Reese has accused Hershey's of essentially changing the iconic Reese's peanut butter cup recipe. Well, we did the taste test. And let me tell you, it's 100% true. We are on board, Brad. We support you. And as we know, Hershey's has come out and said they have only changed the recipe for shaped peanut butter cups. So for anyone who eats a shaped peanut butter cup, like an egg, a Christmas tree, something of that nature, and think, oh, it doesn't taste like a regular peanut butter cup. Well, it's it doesn't because the recipe has changed. And we also taste tested Snickers. They have done the same thing too. The mini Snickers, the fun size, and regular Snickers all taste the same. But if it's a Christmas tree or an egg, it's different. It's a different recipe. And let me tell you, it's not as good.
Cocoa Prices And Recipe Changes
Speaker 1I appreciated your follow-up because you said in the last episode, or we said, okay, bring them. And sure enough, you did bring them. And I was a little I don't know if skeptical, I shouldn't have been skeptical because Hershey's came out and said it. But I thought, would I be able to detect the difference? Probably not, but I did. It was, you know, it's slightly different.
Speaker 5Yeah, yeah. Just not quite as good.
Speaker 1Not as rich, I guess. Yes. A weird little maybe aftertaste. Yep.
SpeakerAnd I just have to add too, my experience is yeah, I was skeptical about it, but then I also noticed that it's not just the flavor, but the texture. I found it different.
Speaker 5Yeah.
SpeakerUm, from the original. It's just like chewiness of this the shape ones. And it was interesting because by themselves, I would just probably enjoy them because I do like combo of peanut butter.
Speaker 5Me too.
SpeakerUm, but then when when taste alone, like right next to it, it was just like, oh, this has no chocolate at all. Yeah, like it's it just felt like it was like no chocolate at all.
Speaker 1That's the claim, right? No cocoa isn't it?
Speaker 5It's like I think, or much less or something, and then they're using different oils and stuff instead. So yeah, because cocoa prices have increased and gone through the roof.
SpeakerYeah.
Speaker 5So when you're buying candy for your Easter baskets this year, don't buy the eggs, buy the original.
The $300 Chocolate Experience
SpeakerYeah, more you know. Exactly. But if you do want a chocolate experience, yeah, there is a restaurant that I think that we should all go.
Speaker 5Oh, okay. What is it?
SpeakerIt's a uh the restaurant um El Cielo. Um it's in DC, New York, and Miami.
Speaker 3Oh, okay.
SpeakerUm, chef Juan Manuel Barrientos. He is the chef on there. Okay. He has a chocolate experience on it. Now really this chocolate experience is $300 worth.
Speaker 5Well, it better be $900 between the three of us. A lot of high-end chocolate.
SpeakerThis is what the experience is about warm liquid chocolate.
unknownOkay.
Speaker 5Oh. I don't think I want that.
SpeakerGuests are able to. I I they're actually encouraged to touch, smear, taste, lick. Really? Just get a little bit more. Are you in a private room? No, no.
Speaker 1There are everybody is like it is sounds like it's a borderlines on like a sexual experience.
SpeakerI don't know how many of you have seen or experienced uh the spa. Many spas now are bringing chocolate into the mix.
Speaker 5I have, yes.
SpeakerUm, so that is what uh this chef, which is a Michelin-star, like you know, restaurant. It's like so it's not an experience that you're gonna find you know in everybody, uh everywhere else, but this place, he wanted to just bring that in to the experience. And I mean, we watched a video, and this uh man was like, Oh my god, my it feels so good. It was just like he really wasn't doing it.
Speaker 1Like he's lathering it up like soap and then licking his hands.
Speaker 5Yeah, I'm not sure I'd do it for $300.
Speaker 1Do you think it's $300 because of these cocoa prices?
Speaker 5Maybe, yeah, because it might be a high-end chocolate. Yeah, yeah. These cocoa prices, see, they're through the roof. Now, I wonder, does this restaurant have like a table side Caesar? Like, I love a table side Caesar. Well, I think it's the chocolate, yeah. I'm questioning what the rest of the menu is because I'm not sure I'm in for the $300 chocolate experience, but I might be in for other items on this.
SpeakerWell, it's a Colombian cuisine, so it's like a more Latin vibe to it. So I don't know if they will have a Caesar salad with it. And also, if you are wanting a Caesar salad at the point that you're getting the chocolate, you're done with the eating. Like this is a dessert.
Speaker 5Oh, this is a dessert. I thought it was just like a fun app.
SpeakerNo, this is just dessert is 450, just so you're not.
Speaker 5Well, it better be table side for that.
SpeakerHonestly, it was one of those things that he was saying that the one of the things that he wants to bring in, and then I don't know if it happened to you before, like like when food brings on memories, yeah, oh yeah, nostalgia type of thing. And not that I would do it, but when I saw this guy playing with the chocolate, it was like it brings you back to like being a child and just playing with food, and you know, you are really in this missioning star restaurant allowed to play with food um for $300. But um, so but he wanted to just bring that in. And then I was like, okay, it's it's this when chocolate can get a little messy.
Speaker 1But I feel like they're always trying to find a new experience. So this is for those people that literally, you know, probably have extra income. And they're like, what should we do? Why don't we lick our why don't we lick chocolate off our fingers for $300 and snap a TikTok and put it up and maybe we go viral?
SpeakerYeah, I found it interesting. It was it's just chocolate.
Speaker 5Yeah.
Speaker 1Well, it better be like fancy fans.
Speaker 5With these high cocoa prices, it's probably is pricey, especially if you have to get a large bowl of it to like put into your hands.
SpeakerYeah, and just like get it.
Speaker 1How do you do they clean your hands after you can lick it? I mean to give you a little a wet nap, like you're eating wings.
Burger Bite Wars: CEO Showdowns
SpeakerThey probably give you one of those like warm towels that you get at a airplane. Yeah, yep. Oh, I do love that.
Speaker 5Yeah, a warm scented lemon towel. Yeah, I'm in for it. Well, speaking of food, have you seen these burger bite wars?
Speaker 1Oh, yeah. Who has it? I'm just the talk of the town.
Speaker 5Oh God, I love it. So I was just like, I'm always tracking new items at any restaurant around, like chain restaurants, fast food restaurants, new food items in the store. So I was doing my normal tracking and I came across the McDonald's CEO talking about the Big Arch Burger, which is, I guess, McDonald's new burger. And I'm not even quite sure what's so special about it. But anyway, uh, the McDonald's CEO did a whole like video about it. And he's like, Oh, it's so amazing, it's so great. And he's like dressed very conservatively, kind of in a room that looks like a boardroom or an office or something. And he takes a bite of the big arch burger, and then he's like, Oh my god, it's so amazing. Well, let me tell you, this bite, I don't know that he got any hamburger, it's like maybe a little piece of bun.
Speaker 1So apparently they called it a dainty bite.
Speaker 5A dainty bite, which I like, I think that's the perfect and the way he looks, he's a little more conservative, so it kind of seems like, yeah, he would be a dainty biter. And so then comes in the Burger King CEO. Now, this guy is in a kitchen, he's got his sleeves rolled up, he's wearing an apron, and he's basically talking about uh the whopper and how amazing it is, and he takes a bite. Now, his bite literally half the whopper's gone. And then he's like, Oh my god, you really need a napkin for this type of bite. So basically trolling McDonald's. Well, yeah, because he took a real bite, which the McDonald's CEO did not want to take.
SpeakerYeah. The only thing I was waiting for the McDonald's CEO was to pinky up.
Speaker 5Yeah.
Speaker 1Well, he's gotten really trolled for it, but uh he also they have gotten $18 million worth of viral press over wow, so it's that whole press. Right, any press is good press. But it is very funny because it's they're also accusing him of like, I don't think this man even knows what's on this new arch thing. And and the bite, you didn't get all the ingredients in that bite. Correct. You got bun and maybe like a dainty piece of meat or something, but like maybe a teeny corner, and then he tries to sell it with like this is so good.
SpeakerLike, you really did he know he was recorded and he disused.
Speaker 5Yes, he was doing it.
Speaker 1I think he's intentional, right? Absolutely.
Speaker 5I think his intent though was oh, I have to talk after this bite. I don't want to have all this food in my mouth. So I just know from my theater background that like when you have to eat, you're con you're always very like trying to take very teeny little bites or fake bites because you you're trying to do lines. So I feel in his mind, he thought, I'm just trying to get my lines out, I don't have all this food in my mouth. So I get that perspective. But then when Burger King comes in and makes you look like an idiot, and now you've got Wendy's doing it, yeah, and they've done their own videos, so it's like everyone's on the bandwagon.
Speaker 1Well, to the point that you made about like what he was trying to accomplish and make sure you could say his lines. The thing that always gets me with this type of stuff is there's probably 50 other people in the room or around or involved in the edit, the final saying go, yep, this is our best take. Like there's nobody that saw that and said, Perhaps should we consider you taking a little bit bigger of a bite? Correct. Or like it might be okay to talk with a little food in your mouth because it's scrumptious, and you that you can sell it and be like, wow, the flavors in my mouth. Like nobody thought, like, or maybe they're just because it was a CEO, they didn't feel like I think felt they had the authority to push back.
Speaker 5I agree, but that's what happened. I think it was he's the CEO, he's the big guy. No one dared to say take a bigger bite, or let's just try one take with it and see like how it looks or how it plays out.
SpeakerFor me, this is a little bit of a test of what Burger King has been doing for years behind McDonald's marketing, whatever marketing. You know, I don't know if if you've ever heard them talk about it, but years ago, there was a big interview with the CEO of Burger King. They were asking him like why there's always a Burger King next to a McDonald's.
Speaker 5Oh, yes.
SpeakerAnd he said that it was a strategic move. They would not invest as much in the marketing side. So they would let McDonald's do their research and the land and the geography. And once they saw McDonald's, that means we need to build a Burger King. Let's just try to find an area there. So what I'm saying is like now, obviously, Burger King saw this situation with the CEOs. Like, this is a moment for us to just come in with a bigger bite.
Speaker 3Yes.
SpeakerUm, and then just proves like we are we're still here.
Speaker 1Walgreens does that strategy with CVS. Oh, really? Oh, interesting. I think I in fact at one point with my marketing background. Oh, okay.
Speaker 3Well, touche, touche.
Speaker 1I had learned that that was like public strategy that they would say our strategy is to be on the opposite corner of every CVS. Okay. Now I could be getting my drugstore's mixed up, but there's a story there.
Speaker 5Yeah, there is. I've heard it. I know the story, I've heard it.
Fast-Food Trolls And Viral Marketing
Speaker 1And then, JJ, to your point about Burger King coming in, I will say Wendy's does some amazing advertising and promotions. So I love that they also jumped in and they poked fun. They also did a little uh poking fun of they said our frosty machines are always working. Because if you've ever been to a McDonald's and be like, oh, let's get a vanilla swirl, and it's like, oh, our machine's down. Oh, is it constantly? So they took it to another level.
Speaker 5Well, I also recently saw on TikTok people have gone back to like McDonald's old promotional videos and found a video of the same McDonald's CEO doing a bite of a chicken sandwich, and basically it looks like he spits it out in his napkin.
Speaker 1I've seen this. Yes, there's they haven't proven it, but it does clearly look. I mean, it looks like he's pinching the napkin.
Speaker 5It does.
Speaker 1So there's like some chicken being spit out. So I think he apparently doesn't like their sandwiches.
Speaker 5I was just gonna say that. I don't think the McDonald's CEO likes the food at McDonald's.
Speaker 1They need a different spokesperson.
Speaker 5Yeah, they do. And I want to see, I'm looking for a video of him with a shamrock shake. Because you know I love my shamrock shakes. It'll be like a little yeah, it'll be like a baby sip. Like, okay, I'm done with you, CEO.
Speaker 1You need to like the food that you actually should do it now as like uh, well, here's how I drink my shake. Yes. Right, right.
Speaker 5Call us, McDonald's. We've got the idea.
Speaker 1Put me in the room.
SpeakerYeah, 100%.
Speaker 5We won't let the CEO put out dainty bites anymore.
SpeakerNo, I do like the word dainty though. Yeah. You do? Yeah. It's like it feels like that's why I was expecting the pinky up.
Speaker 5Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, it is kind of like, you know, when you have some people, you have friends or family members are like, oh, let me just have one bite. And then literally, like half your sandwich, half your candy bar, half of whatever you're eating is gone.
Speaker 1You're like, that's yeah, your average regular bite.
Speaker 5Yeah, it's like so half my sandwich. This dainty bite business, especially from a food CEO, is kind of sketch. Like, you should know. Like, you need to take a proper bite, yeah.
Speaker 1Cool on bite. It's funny to me though, how like things like that like catch on, and then everybody, to your point, there are several other smaller burger chains that have jumped on board, and even some like Popeyes, which isn't a burger thing, has done so. They're either like doing ads or engaging in the conversation, and then then everyone else makes their own little videos, like, oh, watch me eat a little, you know, like so. It just it just takes on this entire life, which I I do kind of enjoy watching it unfold.
Speaker 5Well, yeah, maybe we're gonna have to do an Archburger bite.
SpeakerWe should do tiny bites, dainty bites. Uh there's this people, Megan mentioned TikTok, and these should be YouTube before like people just go into with like hours and hours, they're just eating in front of the camera. Oh, really? Millions follow them. And there's like I always find that so weird. So probably going back to the CEO, he went just wanted to be a little dainty because I mean I don't know how many more bites, how many more takes this is going to take? Yeah, um, but yeah, there's people out there that they're just like eating, yeah. Like, and sometimes it's like a crab boil, like all the like random stuff, and I'm like, do really people like watch this? Like, what is like they're like fingers?
Speaker 1I'm like if you are a listener and you watch people eat food on TikTok and YouTube as like a hobby and something to pass at a time. Can you give us a ring? I'd like to talk to you about why you find that so entertaining to watch somebody else eat food.
SpeakerI would love it. I think it's the equivalent of the ASMR.
Speaker 5Oh, I can see that.
SpeakerBut it's just like people want to watch other people eat.
Speaker 2Well, but when you say that, like why? Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1Like cooking. Cook is one thing. I would watch somebody maybe cook. Yeah. Eat a full on case. Maybe they and I'm sure there's some a mix of eating and ASMR, right? They probably are like a like a buttery crab leg, like, or watch me eat this liver.
SpeakerIt goes back to yeah, it will it goes back to like remember one of my pullouts was people like chewing out loud. Can you imagine chewing out loud?
Speaker 1Like, I don't know, and subscribing to that channel.
SpeakerYes, like I wanna wait. I I it's like it's my favorite show on no no no no. I want to watch this lady eat some like I don't know, a roadkill. I don't know, something like that.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, roadkill. There are people that do that, you know.
SpeakerA roadkill? Like, yeah, like why would you like there's no meat anymore there?
Mukbangs, ASMR, And Watching People Eat
Speaker 1I'll break it down in a couple ways because in Michigan, actually, it's it's different in different states, but in Michigan, if you're if you hit a deer with your car with your car and kill it, you can you I guess it you that's a prerequisite. It has to die. Then you can take it home and process the meat if you want.
SpeakerSo what if if it's alive? Well then you just let it die.
Speaker 1Unfortunately, I mean uh they'll stamper away, or if they're yeah, I don't know what like I think you could kill it if it was how they just with a gun.
Speaker 5You shouldn't have to go. Will you drive around with a gun? A lot of people in Michigan do well.
SpeakerBut if I were if I if that were be me, I don't know.
Speaker 5Well, you know someone with a gun, you could give them a call.
Speaker 1But by then, I don't know what I don't okay. This is what not what I was gonna talk about, but I'm just saying so you can process the meat, and you obviously, if you damaged the part that you hit or damaged, you would avoid. Yeah, but that's one thing, right? Yeah, but there are people out there, a community, they're they're called roadkill, what were they called? Roadkill lovers. Really? Roadkill lovers.
Speaker 2Is that true? Are you wrong?
Speaker 1No, it is true. Okay, and they just can you fact check it, please?
Speaker 5I feel like it's no, it is true.
Speaker 1Okay, it is true. All right, and they it's oh sorry, roadkill cuisine lovers, cuisine lovers, okay, okay, okay, and they are monitoring like police scanners. Oh, really? Yes, and um social media for people that like oh, kind of to your point. Oh, I just hit this deer and like it's still alive, or I I felt awful. I was driving down 696 or whatever, and they go out and try to scoop it up while it's still well edible, yes, edible.
Speaker 5It can't just sit there for days, it's on edible then.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah. But I mean, you're making a judgment, you gotta get there fast.
Speaker 5It's a fresh, it's a fresh kill.
Speaker 2You gotta be first and you gotta be fast.
Speaker 5Oh, you think there's a lot coming for them.
SpeakerSo there is you bringing in, and I'm it's we're still in Michigan, so we're bringing you bring in a deer that you just hid to the butcher.
Speaker 1You can, or you can do it at your home.
SpeakerI have no idea how to even start.
Speaker 1Not you, well, then you wouldn't.
Speaker 5Are you considering it, JJ? You're gonna start eating roadkill?
SpeakerNo.
Speaker 2Okay, well, you should start small with a squirrel. Because squirrels are popular. Squirrels, rabbits, deer.
SpeakerOh my god, not my rabbit.
Speaker 5I don't like game.
SpeakerWhat do you mean game?
Speaker 5That's what they call game meat.
SpeakerOh, really? Yeah.
Speaker 1Well, game is well, like they're animals. Yeah. Live or dead, you could call them game.
SpeakerLike game animals?
Speaker 1Well, like game.
SpeakerLike the hunger games.
unknownNo.
Speaker 1They say like game meat.
SpeakerGame meat. Because it's like a game.
Speaker 1Game can no. Game can mean two things. Game as in like a board game, or game as in animals. Yeah, you're gonna have to do following because of the hunting. No.
SpeakerI don't know why they're just because they're called game. I think that there's gotta be some like connection between hunting and it's a hunting game.
Speaker 1Okay.
SpeakerWell, I think that's that's why I thought about Hunger Games. Well, we're checking it out.
Speaker 5No, I think that's game meat is named for being. Wild, free-ranging animals, such as deer, elk, or rabbit. They are hunted for sport, pleasure, or food.
SpeakerIt's a sport.
Speaker 5Well, yeah. Yeah. This meat, which is often called gamey, has a stronger, more intense flavor compared to domesticated livestock due to a diet of wild, varied foliage and their higher physical activity.
Speaker 1Okay. That is true. A lot of times people will eat something and be like, this tastes gamey. Yes. Have you heard that before? Never. Yes.
Speaker 5And I've had gamey food and meat before. I don't, yeah. I'm not a fan.
Speaker 1So my dad was a hunter. Still is. He still hunts. And he would process his own deer, JJ. So there was it was sometimes like a slaughterhouse around outside.
Speaker 5Oh, he did it himself.
Roadkill Cuisine And Game Meat
Speaker 1He did, but he would also have hunting camps. So there would be like if four people or something got deer, you've got all these deer hanging up by their hind, you know, it was something, but and he would process as he got older, he would have a butcher do it. But a butcher could do it, or if you're skilled, and I'm sensing that some of these road quill roadkill cuisine lovers are probably started out and now much like someone that does sourdough, they've gotten good at it. And they they can skin it and cut it. There's um roadkill cookbook, and there is also in West Virginia, there is a roadkill um festival, and and so people bring in their roadkills to that fest?
Speaker 5Well, probably it's a process, so it'll be like a roadkill, like so they're serving um possum that they hit they've made into a steak, or like here it is.
Speaker 1It's they okay, so this festival is called Autumn Harvest Festival, it's in Marlington, West Virginia. It got kicked off in 1991.
Speaker 3Oh, wow.
Speaker 1Some of the dishes that have appeared there before are teriyaki marinated bear. Now, remember, did you like that?
Speaker 5Well, I love a teriyaki.
Speaker 1You must have been driving.
Speaker 5And I've never imagined a bear. Well, yeah, the teriyaki bite. teriyaki and then bear, like, wow, someone hit a bear. Yeah, that really messed up their car.
Speaker 1Could have been a cub.
Speaker 5Oh, I don't want the bear cub.
Speaker 1Oh, but you do love teriyaki, so you know, pros and cons. There's squirrel gravy.
Speaker 5Oh, that's have you ever tried squirrel? No.
Speaker 1You no? I my dad probably had me eat squirrel. I don't know. No. What's the what if what would you say is the worst thing you've ever put in your mouth? Crocodile, maybe.
Speaker 5Oh, really? I don't think I've had crocodile.
Speaker 1I don't know. I don't go to the city.
SpeakerThey had like crocodile burgers down in Florida once. I tried that, yeah.
Speaker 1Gross. Well, and we should talk about some of the stuff people will eat. But I want to just say there was possum stew.
Speaker 2Yeah. That sounds good.
Speaker 1Can you imagine hitting a possum and seeing dinner? You're like, I'm stewed, turn on the oven, honey. I've got a possum I'm bringing home. No, no, no, not for me. Not for you. Okay. Well, I also will put a call out since we're asking for um people to give us a ring. If you are a roadkill cuisine lover.
Speaker 5Oh, I would like to hear from you.
Speaker 1We would like to taste your products.
Speaker 5Oh, no, no. Oh, sorry. I'm not tasting.
Speaker 2JJ and Maddie will taste watch. I don't think I said.
SpeakerI kind of feel that we'll be surprised of how many of our friends or people that knows us might have done it. JJ, you think?
Speaker 5You think I don't. We have some sketchy friends. I don't think any of them have picked up rokill and processed it.
Speaker 1I think of one friend that might have. But I wasn't. Really?
Speaker 5What's that name?
Speaker 1I can't say that. I want to know that name.
Speaker 5Well, I want names. Name them. Name them.
Speaker 1I'm just saying, just careful if you're having uh if you're accepting an invite to a certain type of party. Oh my god.
Speaker 2Matty.
Speaker 4Just uh move on.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 4Okay.
Speaker 1All right. So what awful things. Awful as an OFFAL. How about we go there?
Speaker 5Because we just talked about I don't know offal what offal is.
SpeakerNo. Like awful. Like, oh, that's awful.
Speaker 5No, he said O F F A L.
Speaker 1But it's pronounced the same, and you will probably it'll probably be similar to what you just did with well, game and gaming and gamer. Like this is awful and awful. It's it's awful A W F U L and offal O F F A L, which is the act of eating internal organs. That's a no. That's a no for me.
Speaker 2Yep.
Speaker 1JJ asked me earlier, like humans, and I'm like, no, that would be cannibalism. But this is when you do it for animals.
SpeakerI have a story for that.
Speaker 1Okay, well then let's let's hear it. I I I can go.
SpeakerI want to hear your story. Growing up, my dad used to eat, and I remember my mom having that awful face of like I have to cook this for your dad. Bowl testicles in a weekly basis. Bull bull, like B-U-L-L testicles. They were massive. I remember seeing them on the fridge every time. Where does one even buy it? At the butcher.
Speaker 5At the butcher, yeah. You can get them. They're like a delicacy.
Speaker 1Isn't there a name for those?
SpeakerThat's what my dad used to say. Megan corrected me when we were in pre-prod. He my dad's story always to us growing up was that that bull testicles will give him the energy that he wanted to keep up with us. And because it's a good boost for testosterone.
Speaker 5Yeah, and I looked it up. And eating testicles of a bull or other animal does not boost your testosterone.
SpeakerThat kind of speaks to like sometimes some parents will tell you a story and you just believe it.
Speaker 5Yeah.
SpeakerBut so he will eat that and he will also eat um cow's tongue.
Speaker 1Oh, gross. You know, I just don't know.
SpeakerLike, why would somebody even suggest it and be like, so imagine you like growing up five, six years old, and you open the fridge, you see some testicles the size of like almost like a bowling ball. It's like they're big, and then right next to it, there's like tongue. You don't know if it's cow, but you're like, Mom, should we talk about something? Like there's something going on that's gross. Was there a road kill?
Speaker 1Oh god. Oh, and she snapped those balls right out.
Speaker 2I got the nuts the balls.
Speaker 1Honey, pull over right, pull over. I've got my pocket knife. Disgusting.
SpeakerYeah, so I mean, I'm not surprised that there is such a thing as an awful lover because my dad used to eat that and he would eat intestines and kidneys.
Speaker 1You got some and didn't know it, like they ground it up in some of your foods.
SpeakerI don't think my mom will do that for us.
Speaker 5So you don't think like when we were growing up, it was like one meal was made. Not for my mom.
SpeakerNo.
Speaker 5You had multiple meals.
Speaker 1Yeah, you either ate it or you went to bed hungry. And you don't we remember? You can sit here all night. Yeah. You're not until you finish your broccoli, you are not to get up from the table.
SpeakerMy mom would announce this that pot is for your dad. Nobody's touching it. Well, it sounds like nobody was interested in that. No, actually. Nobody knows. We knew we saw that. Imagine you see the in the fridge and you're like, I don't even want to touch that.
Speaker 3No.
SpeakerUm, so we would just eat, and we usually just eat like separate courses through in our meal. So we knew exactly what was coming in and out. I don't know, Matty, if you I this has completely popped on my head. Like, do you remember when I moved to the States for the first time and I would eat all my meals as a course, and I would eat my French fries first? Yes, and then my burger, and then I'd move into the next.
Speaker 1It kind of would drive me crazy. I'm like, no, why don't you go back and forth? And you're like, no, I like to eat all my potatoes first, then all of this, and then you know we got Megan over here who doesn't want any of the food to touch or before.
Speaker 5Well, and I I also like I do a taste of everything first, and then I do your round first, and then I go back and just finish one thing, and then I go to my other stuff.
Offal Talk: From Tongue To Sweetbreads
Speaker 1And what do I do, JJ? Mix it up. Like, what do I do for my last bite? Oh, I do so I go around the the plate and I have identified what my favorite part of that meal is, and I intentionally make sure that that's the last bite.
Speaker 5Uh that's kind of what I do too. Yeah.
Speaker 1Oh, that's not what you said.
Speaker 5Well, I don't do a first round. I I and I do a first round of everything, and then I eat the worst, the thing I hate the most first, and then I save whatever I like best to eat at the end.
Speaker 1And sometimes I wouldn't make a point of it, but JJ goes, I see what you're doing over here. It seems like you must like the burger the best.
SpeakerYeah, that happened a lot, but yeah, that's awful lovers, huh?
Speaker 1Well, and it's also entails, which I what whatever. So that is also it's more of like the digestive system parts. So we're getting into stomach, liver, kidneys, pancreas. My dad, was that uh spleen? I uh spleen. How can you eat a spleen? I don't know.
SpeakerMy dad will eat the heart of the turkey.
Speaker 5I can't this I can't with this discussion.
Speaker 1Have you had chitterlings? Uh I don't even know what I think you can get those at um oh, I was gonna say crate and barrel. No, what's the what's the that's not it? What's the what's the yeah?
Speaker 2You're gonna cracker barrel. Cracker barrel. Cracker barrel barrel.
Speaker 1You can get chitterlings and crate and barrel. Chitterlings are pig and intestines.
Speaker 5Is that every cracker barrel? Because I don't think they're all selling that.
Speaker 1Well, I don't know.
Speaker 5But okay, wow.
Speaker 1But they give it this name, like chitterling sounds like, oh, that's cute. Just like, you know, what did I say the balls were called? Did I s did I come back to that?
SpeakerNo.
Speaker 1Um it's uh they've got a cute little sweet bread.
Speaker 5Oh, yeah. I knew sweetbreads. They're called sweet bread, and it's like for the balls, like testicles.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 5When you go to French French restaurants lots of times, you never get sweet.
Speaker 1Or Rocky Mount Mountain Oysters is another term.
Speaker 5Yeah, and it's like I've heard them both.
Speaker 1We're eating testicles, folks.
SpeakerPut testicles on the if they give me that on the menu, I will order it because I would not know.
Speaker 1Right. That's my point. You'd get oh, I like sweet bread.
Speaker 5Yeah, yeah. No, I learned that years ago.
Speaker 1No, yeah, truly awful.
Speaker 5I can't. This conversation is too much for me.
Speaker 1Really? Yes, all right, it is so you want to trans?
Speaker 5I want to talk about something I'm obsessed with, which is well, this is what I'm not obsessed with this. Just so you know.
Speaker 2It's so disgusting, and you're well, it's not an obsession of mine.
Speaker 1But I I don't want to do you know the last time I talked about um when I was talking about the ducks and the jeeps, and you're like, that's all I can see now. I hope now you're gonna be driving down the road and you're gonna be like, oh, fresh possum alert, fresh possum.
Speaker 5No, no, I can't.
Speaker 1You will.
Speaker 5Oh now you want to get out all this disgusting. Clean your palate food talk, and let's talk about beautiful things. Okay, like John F. Kennedy Jr. He was a handsome man.
SpeakerHe was a handsome man, and the actor that portrays him on this show in Hulu. Yes, oh Chef's kiss Paul Kelly or Paul Kelly.
Speaker 1They did a good job casting. I haven't watched the show, but they do look like them.
Speaker 5The show is amazing. So I advocate for everyone watch Love Story, JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bessette on Hulu. It's amazing. It's really, really good. But I do want to put a little like PSA out there in support of the Kennedys, is that no one intimately involved with JFK Jr. or Carolyn Bessette was involved in the production. This is truly just a Ryan Murphy. That's a typical Ryan Murphy. But like the Kennedy family, uh, Jack Schlossberg, who is Carolyn Kennedy, the daughter of JFK and Jackie O.
unknownWow.
Speaker 5JFK Jr.'s JFK Jr.'s sister. Her son, Jack Schlossberg, is 33. He's come out and said this is pure fiction. He's challenged Ryan Murphy to actually take some of the proceeds that he's made to like support some of the causes that John F. Kennedy Jr. fought for because he's like, you're making all this money off of like our family's story. And it's pure fiction.
Speaker 1That makes me not want to watch it. I've heard great things about it, but I until you just said that, I thought it was gonna play to their like real story. And I don't know that I like Ryan taking liberties like this.
Speaker 5Well, it does are the real story. I mean, there were John of Kennedy Jr. was followed by the press kind of like Princess Diana for everything. Like, and he was notorious for being like in his mind a man of the people. Got it. Wasn't he? Gotta meet him.
SpeakerWasn't he like known as the uh America's Prince?
Speaker 5Yes. Yeah. And the press trolled him forever. And he was constantly running around New York City with his shirt off, playing football in the park, rollerblading around town. So he was kind of also like living his life very openly and getting fouled. And there was famously this huge fight that Carolyn Bessette and JFK Jr. had in Central Park. I mean, so some stuff is very like you have pictures.
SpeakerSo the fight is on the show.
Speaker 5Oh, yeah. I mean, it was, I mean, it was like a five-page spread in like page six or the New York Post when it came out. I mean, so like there is like you do know a timeline, and you do know they broke up and got back together a lot. So all of that, I mean, there is truth to the general.
Speaker 1There's tent pole, truths.
JFK Jr., Fiction, And 90s Nostalgia
Speaker 5Yeah, but obviously no one knows the private conversations they had or the private conversations Jackie O'Kennedy O'Nassis had with John F. Kennedy Jr. about Carolyn Bessette or Daryl Hannah or any of that. So and Daryl Hannah's also come out and said she's totally upset with this show, and that it does not depict her relationship or have any truth to it, and that she's made to look horrible and she's had horrible uh issues since this show came out.
Speaker 1Oh okay, that's right.
Speaker 5So but what the show has, besides it just being a great show and like treated as fiction, I do want to say is there's all sorts of 90s nostalgia happening right now, like fashion's taking a big kind of 90s turn as far as what's in and out. And Carolyn Bessette Kennedy had amazing, amazing fashion sense. And when you watch it, it is truly like she was the queen of quiet luxury before quiet luxury was even a term used by anyone. Her styles, the pictures of her around town, what she wore are still classic, would look good.
SpeakerCan you explain to me what quiet luxury is?
Speaker 5Quiet luxury just means like everything you're wearing looks like is expensive and high-end and just put together and like perfect, okay, and also a little bit effortless.
SpeakerOkay.
Speaker 5And that's definitely how she looked. Like she could make a black turtleneck or just a plain white dress shirt and jeans and sunglasses look like a complete lifestyle fashion icon moment. And she's just walking down the street of New York. So, because of that, and because of 90s fashion being so popular right now, I have curated, or we've curated all of us together, a chic little collection on our Link Tree inspired by Carolyn Bessette.
Speaker 1I love it that you did this.
Speaker 5Her most iconic staple and famous looks. So some of the things that she wore or used are still being uh sold today, and because they're so classic, like her perfect shade of off-red lipstick, her hair products. She was known to wear a Levi's 517 jean. They're still sold today.
Speaker 3Wow.
Speaker 5Her sunglasses, which you might notice if you're watching, people are wearing these smaller 90s sunglasses a lot now. Uh, Quinn's just came out with like a replica pair of the sunglasses that Carolyn Bessette Kennedy used to wear. So we've curated all of this. It's on our Linktree. So you can go there and you can just click and shop and buy.
Speaker 2Love it.
Speaker 5So you don't have to search around. There's been, I've looked through tons of different articles about the products she used, the clothes she wore. And instead of having to look and search around the internet, you can just go to our Linktree and it's all there.
SpeakerIt's perfect. I love that so much.
Speaker 1Are you going to have your wardrobe influenced by some of her fashion?
Speaker 5Or do you feel like I think I am that vibe? No, I think I am gonna buy the Levi's, I'm gonna buy the lipstick and the hair products, and I'm gonna buy the sunglasses for sure.
Speaker 1Wow.
Speaker 5Yeah.
Speaker 1Okay. Well, then maybe we'll have a return product review from you.
Speaker 5Well, yeah, potentially. The other thing is, and this is something I I ask. This is I'm asking for all the slippers. I have been searching high and low for a while for a perfect white dress shirt, and I keep trying different ones, and I haven't found one that's perfect yet.
Speaker 1So if you have one, you know, Sharon Stone rocked a white dress shirt at the Academy Awards once and tied it in a knot. It was the Gap. And it was the 90s.
Speaker 5There you go. So maybe the Gap.
Speaker 1It's a full circle.
Speaker 5Full circle. And I have one last thing I need to say. Going back to Jack Schlossberg, he is now running to be uh New York state representative in Congress. Oh, so he's in the primary running as a Democrat. So anyone in New York, go vote for Jack Schlossberg in the primaries.
SpeakerOh, awesome. Thank you, Megan.
Speaker 5Yes. Well, it will be good to have a Kennedy back in DC. Oh yeah. I do like the Kennedys. Well, I get there is a Kennedy in DC, but I'm looking for another one. I like most of the Kennedy movies.
SpeakerAnd with that, I think it's time for some slip it in simple answers.
Speaker 5Oh, yes, absolutely.
SpeakerI'm gonna start with mine. Okay. Um, this week I went back to the pool. I used to be a swimmer when I grew up and uh when I was in high school, and I've learned my lessons with the running. So no more running for cardio, but uh it's much easier on the joints. And I it was like one of those things uh that I when I got myself in the pool and like my whole like swimming gear, I was like, oh, it just feels so good to be back in the pool and swimming. And as you know, we I love to be in the water.
Speaker 5I do too.
Speaker 1Um so do you do have you done any of the water aerobics classes?
SpeakerNo, I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 1You're not there yet?
SpeakerI'm just on the laps. Doing laps.
Speaker 1You okay, I'm because you are a good swimmer.
SpeakerYeah, I did 25 laps.
Speaker 1I mean I've done one lap before, and I'm like, this is a lot of work. Yeah. So what's your stroke that you do?
SpeakerI just do freestyles when I'm trying and when I'm doing cardio. Or when you're training. No, I mean, when I'm doing training when I'm like at the gym, I I use it as a cardio. I time myself for 30 minutes.
Speaker 1I go in and do you do the whole thing where your face is in the water and you go to the right? I have to because otherwise you get tired. Breathing part. No, your breathing is.
Speaker 5I don't like my face in the water. That's why that's why I've always backstroke's my favorite.
Speaker 2Oh my God, I can't. I have never seen you backstroke.
Speaker 5I backstroke constantly. You're constantly backstroking where backstroke or I do um Where are you backstroking? In a pool.
Speaker 2I have a pool and you've never backstroked in it. Because I'm usually rafting it. Well, that's my point. You're rafting in it. You're not backstroking it.
Speaker 5But if I'm gonna stroke, I'm backstroking.
Speaker 1Oh her style of swimming, rafting. Rafting.
Speaker 2And on the raft, her hands are going back like this to move her into the deep end. That's her backstroke.
SpeakerSo it was like good, I feel good, and I my knee was were not hurt. I love it. Uh while doing it.
Carolyn Bessette Style And Our Linktree
Speaker 1Are you officially no longer a runner? I'm no longer a runner.
Speaker 5Oh, wow, that run in Puerto Rico took you out forever.
Speaker 1Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's just I packed it up a while ago. It is good exercise cardio, but it's a lot on your knee.
SpeakerIt's a lot on your body stuff. Yeah, and I did some research and um Shadji BD said, just go back to swimming. Yeah, swimming is like that.
Speaker 5I love it.
SpeakerAnd swimming is actually one of the three um exercises that are full on complete exercises. Exercises. So I think that's true.
Speaker 1That makes sense. Rowing is one, isn't it?
SpeakerYeah. And tennis. Oh, wow.
Speaker 2Tennises.
Speaker 1Oh, perfect.
SpeakerI'm in the city. Oh, well, let's get back to the part.
Speaker 3I'm in it.
SpeakerSummer is around right around the corner. My pullout is kind of a follow-up of a pull-out that Matty did. Okay. And this is like episode like five or six. Matty talked about blinkers. And specifically to like when we are in a structure parking and you're just going back and forth, or you are in a lane that you're clearly going to the right or clearly going to the left, and you're doing the blinking.
Speaker 1Well, can I say on that? Yeah. Uh what he says when he says a barking structure. It's happened to me on more on one occasion. There is one way up the structure and one way down. You do not need to signal when you are making a turn in a parking lot. No, not at all. I never do. Never. Thank you.
SpeakerSo my pull out is a blinker on the highway for no reason. Like, and and I feel I feel that that driver thought, oh, I think I should go to the left. Let me put the blinker on. It never went to the left. And let and and just kept going in the lane that they were in and they forgot about the blinker.
Speaker 1But have you ever done that?
SpeakerI've done it, but my car gives me a signal if my blinkers go too long. Yeah. So I'm sure that if my car that is very old gives me a signal that the blinker is way too long, theirs is as well. Yeah. So I'm just get confused because when I'm the one behind it, I'm like, are you coming in? Or should I just try to, you know, speed up and go, you know, around you? Like it's just blinker etiquette, people. Blinker etiquette. It's a it's another branch of your blinking.
Speaker 1Yes.
SpeakerAnd I think that blinking, we can't.
Speaker 1It's all under the umbrella of blinker etiquette. That's because here's what I hate. You put your left blinker on and suddenly you're getting in the right lane.
Speaker 2I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? Are you kidding me? Like, really? Yeah. Get off the road.
SpeakerBlink the F off.
Speaker 2Yes. Get out.
SpeakerYou get out. Anyway, clearly that was a pull-up.
Speaker 5Uh, yes, I love it. Well, I'll go with my slip it in. And I learned this week on a podcast a new word.
Speaker 1Oh, JJ had a new word last I did one of these last episodes.
Speaker 5Himbo is my new word. Himbo. It is an unintelligent man.
Speaker 1Oh. Just well, why don't you just call it dumb man?
Speaker 5Well, I think one, that's two words.
Speaker 1Can we use the word dumb?
SpeakerI don't think that we can.
Speaker 1Well, that's it's just an unintelligent man. That's it.
Speaker 5Yeah.
Speaker 1I thought it was Himbo. Isn't uh wasn't it an attractive? Unintelligent man?
Speaker 5I think it kind of goes with that, but it's just an unintelligent man.
unknownOh.
SpeakerI'm gonna use it.
Speaker 5It was used by you're gonna be like uh I mean I love a new word. Yeah. Oh, it is an attractive. Oh okay. Well sorry, it's an attractive but unintelligent.
SpeakerOkay. Oh, okay. I was just gonna say I concentrate on any Matty just not smart checked you.
Speaker 2You thought you learned a word, and I just taught you the word has more. It's a new word. I'm trying to learn it.
Speaker 1All right.
Speaker 2So it's a hot, dumb guy.
Speaker 5Yes.
Speaker 1Really?
Speaker 5So himbo. Himbo, yeah.
Speaker 1I've met a couple himbos. Yeah.
Speaker 5I've met them a lot.
Quick Hits: Swimming, Blinkers, And Himbo
Speaker 1Would you date a himbo? Never.
SpeakerI I would go on a date, but I wouldn't.
Speaker 1Sometimes you maybe know he's a himbo until you're on a date, and you're like, you a himbo. Oh, ooh, himbo.
unknownYeah.
Speaker 1So you're more into intelligent men. Correct. It's number one. You're a uh what do they call you?
Speaker 5Sapiosexual.
SpeakerOh, so is it called Nessa from the Valley Persian style?
Speaker 1Yep. Sapiosexual. Sapio.
SpeakerSapio.
Speaker 1Sapio. And you identify that way?
Speaker 5Well, I mean, I don't use it as an identifier. It comes from the homo sapiens. If you say what I'm attracted to, it's intelligent, smart, funny, witty men.
Speaker 1So no himbots for you.
Speaker 5No himboth. Never. I know. So my pull it out is right before you guys arrived, I had a bad fall. Oh I was wearing, yeah, I was wearing, I have all these pajama pants and they're super long. And I sometimes take them and get them shortened, but sometimes I'm like, this is so stupid to like pay money for pants I'm just wearing to bet. And I was like getting ready, and because they're so long, my foot got stuck in them, and then I fell flat on my face. My hands were all red, they're not, they're okay now. But um, it was it could have been bad. But luckily, I didn't have anything in my hand, so both hands went down and hit.
Speaker 1Oh my god. Yeah, you didn't hit your face.
Speaker 5No. Oh I've done that before. So no. Because I my hand stopped me. So I kind of fell forward and then like kind of like did a push-up on this because my hands leave it first.
SpeakerSo I might sound like a himbo right now, but I'm gonna ask you a question. Like, so for women, when you buy a pants, you don't have like the length, you know, you cannot buy these are pajamas. Oh, so you don't, yeah, it's just medium large, yeah.
Speaker 1You should buy it typically shorter, they could get dangerous. I mean incredible.
Speaker 5Honest, like when every time I wear them, I do like I pull them way up as high as they can go, which is well. I have a long shirt, the top, the pajama top goes longer.
Speaker 1Okay, yeah.
Speaker 5So, but like I do often get nervous, especially going up and down stairs. Like, I'm nervous, my foot's gonna get stuck and I'm gonna tumble.
SpeakerSo I've had that thought, and you still kept because I have tum well, I need to take them and get them shortened.
Speaker 5It's just annoying to think I gotta spend more money on something that I wear to bed. Yeah, yeah. Just to crop them up so I don't have a phone.
Speaker 1But today, you do more than wear them to bed if this happened. I mean, you were it was noon.
Speaker 5Well, I was getting ready for the day. Yeah.
Speaker 1Well, if you're it's a weekend. If it's an athleisure thing, it's worth the the mending.
Speaker 5When I'm getting ready, the last thing I do is put my clothes on so I get everything else ready first.
Speaker 1Okay. My slip it in is a sound bath. Oh, really?
Speaker 5Oh, really? I didn't know you were a sound bath person.
Speaker 1So I do a 10-minute meditation every day, and I typically go a sound meditation. And so that's the bowls. Yeah. I've seen it in the housewives. It is so relaxing, and I just get very zen with it. And I do like this meditation. You guys should think about meditating. Have you do you ever meditate?
Speaker 5Uh, I mean, I have, but not like at home. So you're just listening to a recording.
Speaker 1Well, I have yeah, versus oh, I don't have a book, a lady come in with her bowls.
Speaker 5Oh, that's what I'm asking. Well, or you can go, you can go places for sound baths.
Speaker 1Oh sure. Not for I'm not going somewhere for 10 minutes.
SpeakerThere's a place that you can go in and you can float on a pool on a lazy river with a mask on, like uh you're blindfold, so you're not even to see anything, and then there's a lady with uh the bowl.
Speaker 1Now I would do that. Would you do that?
SpeakerI would do that, yeah. I like it. I mean, I love the water. So I would jump in right after.
Speaker 1She'd be backstroking right by us as I'm taking my sound bath. Right. Okay. Do you guys have dishcloths? Yeah. Yes. So that's my pull it out. Really? I hate a wet rag. Um mine are not wet.
Speaker 5We don't, yeah. We use yeah, I thought you meant just like a dish towel. You mean like an actual like no, we don't use them, we use a sponge and that's it.
Speaker 1I cannot stand, I don't know why this is even came up in my mind, but I just it's disgusting when I go to someone's house and there is a wet rag. Typically, like you I haven't seen one in the in your in your sinks, you have the divider, there's like a rag hanging over it and it's wet, and then it gets used for like a week or multiple days. Yeah, there is so much like probably worse than your roadkill bacteria and shit in there, and it's like wet, and then they use it and reuse it. I guess it's equivalent to like a washcloth. Do you I don't use a washcloth?
Speaker 5Oh, how do you wash your face?
Speaker 1I I have a sponge. Yeah. I don't know if the sponge is any better, I guess. Yeah.
Falls, Sound Baths, And Wet Rags
Speaker 5Well, I wash my face every night before bed with a washcloth.
Speaker 1Oh, you do?
Speaker 5How do you wash your own?
Speaker 1Well, you she has makeup and all that stuff. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5How do you wash your face without a washcloth?
Speaker 1I actually have the facial wipes.
Speaker 5Oh, yeah. I don't want to use all those chemicals.
Speaker 1Oh. Well, aren't there chemicals in whatever product you're using?
SpeakerYeah, but I feel like it's she uses an oil-based cloth. Okay, you know what I use.
Speaker 5The manio.
SpeakerManio. Yes. But I agree with that. The wet cloth, dirty cloth, uh just usually is gray.
Speaker 1If you're out there and you have a wet cloth, you're living dangerously.
SpeakerYou're in danger, girl.
Speaker 1You in dang. Okay.
Speaker 5Well, I mean, I do just for the cloth people out there, like I do think the cloth people. Well, the clothes if they're using soap all the time, theoretically it's getting itself clean.
Speaker 1That's what are you talking about? I you think the soap itself is cleaning the rag as well? Yes. Yeah, but there are like no, not my face.
Speaker 5I'm talking the dishcloth and the I don't believe it.
Speaker 1Because you're taking it and wiping shit off your counter. Yeah.
Speaker 5And then Oh, I don't think they use it for the counters.
Speaker 1What are they using?
Speaker 5I think they're just like the pans and pots, and then they're putting soap on it and it's clear.
Speaker 1I think it's multi-use. That's where I might yeah.
Speaker 5All right. Well, okay, fine. All right. Support it.
Speaker 1No wet rags. No wet rags.
Speaker 5I don't have one. Go look. I have none.
Speaker 1All right. I'll have it. I'll have to trust you.
Speaker 5All right. Well, with that, slippers, I think it's time for us to clock out. So in the meantime, check out our Linktree at Slipitin Podcast. Check out our 90s nostalgic Carolyn Bessette Kennedy curated collection. You can slip into our DMs on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook at Slip Itin Podcast. We always love an email at slipitinpodcast@gmail.com And finally, give us a call or text us 313-444-9004. Until next time, everyone, goodbye.