Cold Open And Nut Rankings

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It's flip it in, the combo that has you obsessed. We're talking pop culture, bad choices, obviously things that should stay in the group chat.

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Welcome, welcome, welcome, everyone. We are back, slipping it in with you. I'm Megan.

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I'm your favorite Spanish boy, JJ.

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Hello, hello.

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I am Maddie, who maybe should be put in the witness protection program. Probably. Because guess who we have with us today? Our or my favorite stalker, Molly. Sure enough, sure enough. Setting up the pod and who's walking down the street, but Molly. So we thought, hey, let's pull her off the street, put her in a seat, put her some headphones on, put a mic in front of her, and let her plead her case.

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Hello, hello, Molly.

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Welcome.

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It's good to be here. Good to be inside the house. Yes.

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Welcome to the inside. Very excited.

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Yes. And Molly, you are one of our slippers. So we know you know the drill. So let's hear it. What are your top three nuts? Yeah, we like to stick to it.

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So cashew, which I know is a favorite by a lot. I mean, but it's I mean, how can you not? How can you know?

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Cashew is like, yeah, the equivalent of the song at the summer. So yummy.

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Right.

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According to Anderson Cooper.

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Also, almonds. Love almonds. Okay. And then I forget if it was Anderson Cooper or Andy Cohen, but I do also love the lowly peanut. Oh, yeah.

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As your number three.

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Yeah, especially as a salad topper. If I'm doing a salad with an Asian guessing, it's uh really nice to add some texture.

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A lonely peanut, or as Megan calls it, a whore.

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Well, I didn't call it a Anderson Cooper called it the whore. I actually think they add a lot of flavor and spice to a salad.

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Yeah. I like them out of salad. And you know what's funny is that pre-production, we were talking about nuts, and I was shocked because I don't in all of our nut conversation, JJ, I don't think you had told us that you're like it's like your least favorite.

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Well, I was introduced, I was in a dinner a couple weeks ago, and uh we this conversation always comes it's naturally, it's comes organically. And one of the per guests that was at the birthday dinner said, Wait, what is your least favorite nut? And I don't think I can I mean I like peanut butter.

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Brazil nut.

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Yours is Brazil.

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Oh, who likes a Brazil nut? I don't, but I also don't like a walnut.

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It's funny that this family was Brazilian.

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I like a Brazil nut, and you know what I just learned is a crow loves a Brazil nut.

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I didn't know. Crows obsessed with them. I like a Brazilian nut in Brazil.

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But JJ, do Brazilians, do Brazilians like Brazil nuts?

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Because they're they do, but they don't call it Brazilian nuts. It's a different name. I can't remember right now.

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That would be like a American name.

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Yeah, it's like French fries and French in France calling them French fries. They just call them potato fries.

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No, they call them frees. They just call them potato fries.

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I just made that up in my mind.

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Yeah, you did. But you're valuation confidently. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Do you know that I like to eat a peanut in its full shell?

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Like I'll eat the whole thing at a baseball game or on the regular.

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Like if I were to buy, I do like a peanut. And if I were to buy peanuts, I'm not buying those circles. They're not circuits. No, they're just like a but they're like a base circuit.

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They're peanuts and a shell. Yeah, they just haven't deshelled. Peanuts in a shell.

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But if I come across them with a shell, I put the whole thing in there, eat the whole thing. Oh no.

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No.

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No.

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I do like shocking and eating. Like when you go to those restaurants where they have the large bowls of nuts and you just shuck and throw your shells on the floor. I love it. Remember that by the way.

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I'm not a fan of that. Texas Corral does that. And I'm not a big fan of that.

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I love it. Because I love having that little snap.

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Sometimes I need support. So I'm glad that you're here.

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There is something to be said, I think, about having to work for your food in terms of like cracking the knot or like lobster having to.

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You don't even crack the nut, man. You just eat it itself. You just told us that.

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But I mean I was supporting Megan because Megan's like, I like shucking them. When I'm at a restaurant and waiting for my food and hungry, it's nice to have that little and I'm just saying also there's something to be said about like, I feel like you appreciate whatever it is you like if you have to work a little bit for it.

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Sometimes I don't know. If you work for those nuts, well you get a nice reward at the end.

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Sometimes there is a lot of work with a nut.

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Well, yeah.

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Oh God.

Meet Molly And The Moth

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All right. Well, we've digressed in that nutty conversation. So, Molly, I think it's really interesting because you always thought your dad was, you know, your normal everyday dad living this very ordinary life. But after he passed away, you learned that he might just have been the most interesting guy in the room.

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Oh, so we just took a right turn.

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Well, because things were getting out of control. So, Molly, after your dad died, what did you learn about him and share at the moth?

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Yeah, so I thought this would be a good story for the moth, and I'm not sure if you all I was gonna say because I've never I was just introduced as we were talking about this uh to a moth. I know what a moth, the moth, the insect is. I didn't know the concept of the moth.

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That it's funny you say that because I didn't really know either. Not we'll get to your story. I'm sorry. We do have a tendency to take over.

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I've I've but I've hung out with you guys a lot.

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Okay, okay, okay. So this isn't your first road.

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You know, she's your stalker.

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She knows what's going on. She's like through your window. I've seen your previous episode.

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She knows your whereabouts.

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Yes. I know I know when you're home if your car is in the driveway. Yeah.

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Oh, God. I know. It's like sometimes even in the summer, I have to park in the garage just to throw her off my set. All right. So I did a little research. So the moth uh was came about by a founder by the name of George Doss Green, and he was trying to recreate the feeling of a summer night in Georgia where people would gather on the porch to tell stories while the moths were drawn to the porch light. So I think it's very cool. It's like the people um gathering were like the equivalent of well, they would be like they would be like the moth because they were gathering to hear the story.

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So it's like it's just it's just probably the concept of the moth just sneaking in and listening to those stories. Creeper moth. That creeper moth.

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Like our soccer tracks. I'm not surprised.

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So you were at the moth in Detroit, which is we in Marble Bar, which is something that they do regularly.

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Yeah, so they're all across the United States, there's moth storytelling hours at all these different venues. And in Detroit, yeah, so it's every every major city, like Ann Arbor even has one, but in Detroit it's at the Marble Bar.

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I wonder if New York has one.

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Oh, New York for sure. Are they all like connected in terms of like a community? Like it's all through the same organization or NPR has like their national moth.

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So if you go on like you can, it's like where they have like the the best storytellers come in and they'll play it on the NPR storytelling, but then they also, it's not like a franchise, but like local MP. So like WDET here in Detroit is the one that runs the moth at Marble Bar. And then I think it's the NPR station out of Ann Arbor that will run the one in Ann Arbor. Um, so that it's like I think it's mostly affiliated with MPR stations. Okay, okay.

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I love music. So you were part of, do you just you were a regular and then you were part of it, or you were you part of it?

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And then I had actually performed at a storytelling um event in Boston because my old roommate there was an amazing storyteller. Um, and she actually helped to organize and host that event. So when I moved here to Detroit, I was like, oh, I wonder like what is here. Um but I whenever I had gone to the one in Boston, it was like with friends. So it was a little scary going to the one in Detroit and not really knowing. Oh, did you go by yourself? I brought um my husband and my best friend Anika came and I didn't actually realize that other people in their audience were. I I used to work at Ford Motor Company, and there were some of my colleagues were in the audience, and I didn't even realize it. Well, that would put a little extra pressure. Oh, for sure. I mean, like you're on stage, there's lights shining in your face. Like it's I I'm not normally a performer, right? So it's it's intimidating for sure.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So you ties into your dad because at the moment.

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Well, so at the moth, there's always um like different topics for each storytelling event. So um I had wanted to tell this story for a while. Um, the the format of the moth is you only have five minutes to tell a story.

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We have more than five minutes to tell me.

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We do, which is good, definitely. This is a this is a juicy story. Um, but uh the way that I opened it at at the moth was um after my dad had had passed, um, we had a celebration of life for him about a month after he passed away. He had suffered um from a type of blood cancer about six years. So it was a pretty like rough um ending. Um, but we wanted to kind of bring all family and friends together and celebrate his life, yeah. Yeah, exactly. And my my sister and I were kind of cuddling in bed with my mom, um, all home. Um my family's in Massachusetts, so you don't aren't always there. And my mom just said to us, she's like, So, you know, you might hear some things tomorrow about your dad. I was like, okay. At the funeral? At the memorial celebration, at the celebration of life. She's like giving us a heads up that you might hear some things about your dad tomorrow. She was like, um, so your dad, he he used to sell weed. And I wasn't that surprised by that. Like my parents were like hippies, like my it, I was like, okay. She was like, and it wasn't a small amount. Okay. And then what really got me, she's like, and he served a year in federal prison.

The Prison Reveal At Bedtime

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Oh.

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Yeah. So that was like, I had no idea about that. So it it turned out that my dad for about five years and his friends were involved in a pretty significant um weed smuggling and distribution operation. Um, so I was able to ask his friends about this.

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How many friends are we talking about here?

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Um five. Oh, no, no, no, more. Um wow.

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So there were shook the community.

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Well, there was boat people, and because they actually sailed it up from South America. Show there was actually an article about um my the this group in Rolling Stone recently, actually. Oh wow. Okay, sure.

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Okay. I thought she was like kind of exaggerating a little bit when she said it was like uh it was a little bit more than I mean, literally when you I in my mind needs to be a next week's like documentary or something.

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Yeah, no, I mean, so they and if you go into this Rolling Stone article, like I I and I I look at photos of them at the time and they're just like, these are just like very attractive, gorgeous people who are just like tanned, like they live on sailboats. Um they would uh they had a sh they bought a shrimp boat and they would take the shrimp boat to bring the weed out from Columbia to St. Martin. Stop and then in St. Martin they would transfer it to smaller sailboats and sail up into Maine or Cape Cod and like kind of like high-end towns where they would offload, and then that's where my dad would help with offloading and then distribution.

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And in you didn't incidents when you left.

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To the locals, was did people think he was a shrimper?

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Well, my dad was in the distribution, but in St. Martin, where the shrimp because so the way the trade wins go is you really can't sail from Columbia to the Caribbean. Um, you can sail from the Caribbean to New England if you think back to the triangle trade that you were taught in elementary school. Look at that.

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I am learning a lot today.

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But they actually, the the folks who were on the boats actually did like rub shoulders with Jimmy Buffett, like before he was like really big in St. Martin, because that's like where he hung out. So like when you think of like a lot of Jimmy Buffett's songs about being a pirate or these other things, like they actually would like they had met him and they had like kind of influenced that lifestyle.

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Did he buy any weed from them?

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I'm sure.

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Is there a picture is there a picture of your dad in Rolling Stone?

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No, so my dad was not the the folks on the boats, they were like true pirates, like they like like benevolent pirates, right? Like they were truly living, um it was different. Um, and and one of my the reason the way I learned about this is one of my dad's friends who was heavily involved um a month or so even after the celebration of life was like, you know what? What's I'll come over for dinner, I'll answer any questions you have about this just so you can learn. So that's where I got to ask him a ton of questions. Um he he was be a fly. Yeah, it was just well, I mean, it was amazing because you I I don't I mean, I think we all think our parents are really boring, right? Um like you're like, oh gosh, you're so lame. Um, and I remember as a kid, my parents would be like, no, like we used to do exciting things. I'd be like, okay.

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But they actually Well, they were doing good things.

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Well, you say they, so was your mom involved in this?

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My mom was not necessarily, I would say she was more like a conspirator.

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So that's the plot thing.

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So like one of the the mom that I just saw. Yes, in the car that caught me off here.

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Okay. So, like, I mean, I thought one of I thought it was typical. I just thought everyone had two foot by two foot scales in their house to measure your to weigh your suitcases on before you went to the airplane. I just thought that that was normal. We had two of those in our basement. Wow. So there's things like that. And I guess my whole family knew about this. Like my aunts knew about it, my grandparents had known about it. In fact, like my grandparents at one, so ultimately my dad was caught when um they had an inferior sailing crew. So the the the the guy, my dad's friend who met with me for dinner, my dad's partner in this whole venture was nicknamed Nick the Prick. So he's kind of a dick. So he pissed people off. So the the good sailors wouldn't really want to work with him anymore. So this other sailing crew had run aground in Wellfleet, Massachusetts, which for anyone who's familiar with Cape Cod, this is like a very bougie Cape Cod destination. So they're unloading.

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We went to P Town once.

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Yeah, so it's actually very close to P Town, but it's like a little um quieter. So um they had run aground there, they'd read the title charts wrong. So there was more time for people to take notice of a lot of um zodiacs going back and forth and unloading into a certain area, and and that's um ultimately how they were caught. But um my grandparents knew about it, and my grandparents were fairly religious, and they had actually asked one of their friends who actually christened my sister, who is a well-regarded priest, to testify on my dad's behalf in his trial. Yeah. And there's always a priest involved. Yeah, there, but he, I mean, he and it was but it was really remarkable because my parents had kept recordings and transcripts. Uh, my mom had all of this. So I was able to read his diary. Um, the heads. What he was in prison. Um, I read like there was transcripts from what happened in court. Like it was so it was interesting reading through perjury the testimony of this one priest who said, you know, and and like that going to prison for some folks can like kind of I forget the exact wording. I should have like brought it here to prepare, but it basically like turns someone who's so good and kind of like really hardened or or not just hard. I don't think my dad could have been hardened because he was so good-hearted, but just it it could really like ruin someone. Um, so that's why I think that he got a fairly lenient sentence of one year um in federal prison in Pennsylvania.

Sailing Weed From Colombia North

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It was one of those kind of like um lower security places. Um, I think he did like groundskeeping or something. But it was it was I mean, I can read his diary from there and it's so now I can help but wonder.

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Like, yeah, so you said that as kids we all we often think about our care our parents being boring. So once your mom told you that story, did you did your perception of your dad turn from like my dad was boring to like he was a badass?

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I mean, I think what changed for me is like I had I I am fairly like competitive and ambitious. And it was really for me to learn that my dad was also really ambitious. Like I think he he um had gotten kicked out of university for doing basically shenanigans and stuff like that. I was just saying drugs.

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No, then well, I don't smoke unity.

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He was very good hearted shenanigans, like they would like jump out of the window of their dorm into the snow, and like it was a Catholic school, so anyways. Um, and then he put himself through night school and was roofing. So I think at that point there just like weren't as many obvious pathways open to him.

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And if you think about it Like when you say roofing, he was a roofer. Oh, he wasn't like roofing through a lot of roofing it like beautiful for the audience, because roofing can be another thing uh if you do to unsuspecting people at the bar.

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Wait, what? Put a roofie in their oh but is that called roofing? Yeah, I thought it means like I've been roofied, but I didn't know if you're doing roofing.

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Well, if I've roofed you and I've roofed yourself roofing. We just put in a verb as a verb.

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I've never heard it done that way, but no, I'm not quite the contrary.

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My dad was like working on roofs of buildings in very hot weather, replacing and fixing. I just don't want much more demanding people to get the wrong impression. Yes, thank you for clarifying.

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You're welcome.

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Um, so I think it was just so he was ambitious. So that was kind of nice to know, more so that he had that in him. And one of his friends at that uh memorial service told me that his dad, my dad told him that he knows he asked him, he was like, Jack, you know, how long are you gonna do this for? Like, because my dad actually did this for a number of years. And he was like, Until I have a million dollars. Oh wow.

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And it was kind of that was the goal.

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Yeah, that was the goal. And and I mean, I grew up in a really nice suburb of Boston. Um, and you know, thinking back on it, like I don't know how I thought they put a down payment there with like a carpenter's salary, but like uh thinking about my foundation in life was because I got a great public education, right? Probably growing up in this really nice place. And and because I grew up there, my dad just didn't want my sister and I to know. So it was kind of this whole thing that no one was to tell us that this was a big part of the past because it doesn't set a great example, right, for a kid, and especially in high school and in college, and then he um was diagnosed with cancer right when I was out of college. So you don't really then he didn't really when I was kind of finally old enough for him to have this conversation with me, it then he didn't really want to talk about it at that point, right? Because it was just, I don't know, it's not like you I and I totally spent yeah, yeah, it's not really how you want to spend that last bit of time. I mean, I would love for my dad to be alive today and to ask him questions about this period of his life, which is why I'm so thankful that his friend did meet with me because it allowed me to ask a lot of those questions. But I also really respect my dad for not telling me because I think it would have been so much easier when I was such a snot-nosed like 15-year-old of like, you are just so boring.

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I had a question for you. I have a question for you. Yeah, you said there was some rationale as to why he got a lenient uh prison term. Did all the crew go down as well in terms of getting prosecuted? And did others get longer-term sentences?

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So there was actually an article about this bust in the Wellfleet newspaper a few years ago. So I actually read the article because like it was even they even published an article about it on the still talking about it. On the anniversary. Because at the time they recovered a million dollars worth of weed from the boat.

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So he so he got the million dollars.

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Well, no. No, that's full. Well, we're gonna have a problem. That's full that's still uh pricing. But um I think they were like they some of them ran away, like physically ran away down the cape and got away. Um, I think my dad got caught, and there was other things like like never ran away and got away with it. Like they but then some people were actually like hunt like found later. Like there, there was another group in Maine that was um got caught a few years, like I think five, ten years later. Um, one of the so my dad on the on the like overall hierarchy was like a little bit lower. He was not the Rolling Stone article. He wasn't the kingpin, he wasn't there, was not written about my dad.

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If we were to want to do any us or our listeners wanting to do a follow-up deep dive into this because it seems like it's still making the news and was in huge publications. What would one Google?

How The Crew Got Caught

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Um so Harvey Prager was the name of the guy who the Rolling Stone article was written on.

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Harvey Prager.

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Yeah and actually he's super fascinating because he was caught and he basically convinced the court instead of sentencing him into prison that he would start up a hospice group for men with AIDS. And he and and they decided that that was a better impact to society than him serving time in prison.

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Wow that's fascinating.

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So he ran a hospice for a number of years and I believe now he lives in Brooklyn. Oh my gosh. Now was he a gay man?

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Uh no oh he just had this yeah desire to run this hospice or it was his like I theoretical ticket out of jail.

SPEAKER_01 22:56

No, I think he I I I never met I this is all just from reading the Rolling Stone articles where I'm gathering this but I think he genuinely just cared about like doing just making things better. I mean this group of folks who did this like I think they also like wanted adventure. They agreed they would never distribute anything more than weed because they knew that that would come with a lot of problems. But like I think they genuinely thought that marijuana wasn't problematic and even now it's legal right like look at all the tax revenue it's bringing in so yeah I think it was a a fairly they were like visionaries.

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I think it was it was it was fun.

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It was an adventure they were like kind of like cowboys and I think they had a very strong like moral code right against and so that also carried through in other parts of folks' lives as well.

SPEAKER_02 23:40

That's interesting. So what do you think your dad would make of it if he was able to walk into one of the dispensaries that we have today.

SPEAKER_05 23:47

Everywhere everywhere well pretty much like everywhere like it's just insane.

SPEAKER_01 23:52

We're like California it's everywhere. I mean I think I I don't think he'd be surprised I think my dad was also just like not a technologically forward person. So I think he'd just be like oh god like overwhelmed probably because people think back in the day like you just you were smoking. Right. Yeah and also like weed now is so much stronger than anything that was provided uh back then.

SPEAKER_04 24:13

So even from running these ships from Brazil.

SPEAKER_01 24:17

Well Columbia um I think yeah weed's a ton stronger now than it is then. And I think also the Columb I don't remember if it was like high quality weed. I don't know. I think it was just I think he'd be I don't know um I've never actually thought about that. That's a good question, Megan. I mean I think like I think he'd be overwhelmed by the variety and the selection and just like the merchandising of it. Yeah.

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Yeah it is kind of crazy how it's like totally grown into all these different avenues. Right. It's just it's huge business.

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It would be weird to to be like I spent a year of my life in prison for doing something now that is so recreationally accepted.

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Yes, exactly. Like now he would have been part of probably in the forefront of this business.

SPEAKER_01 24:59

I don't know I mean now it's a business right yeah like he was able to they were able to operate and do this smuggling because it was a way right like an easy and they were able to like live on sailboats and do this whole thing. And I think now it being a business you can't do that anymore. You can't kind of have this cowboy lifestyle with something that's like grown in giant greenhouses. It's just totally different. Yeah um so I think for them it was just as much about or just about the adventure uh of of doing something like that and just um having freedom and and yeah I think just in friendship too. I mean I think it also when I met all of my dad's friends their friendship seemed even stronger to me because the amount of trust that was there for one another and when they said that like we trusted your dad that meant a lot more right because it's um like what they what they had to go through and share and not share or um and and it's also interesting as a kid um you just know that there's certain things you shouldn't ask questions about.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:02

Right. So like thinking back on it like there was one of his friends was we all I called him Uncle 52 and I knew that 52 was his cell block number I just I knew not to ask why he was in jail. Like you just like but as a kid like you just realized like I don't know you just know that there's certain things that are off of it. It's like so that made more sense what Uncle 52 went to jail for. So did 52 was he went to jail for the at the same time as your dad um I don't know if it was all I think he might have been in the same group so yes but there was there were different sailing crews and so I think there was different um folks who were apprehended at different periods of time. Yeah do you think this is fascinated by this story with you why you've turned into a stalker or no is it in is it in the genes or I do think being naturally curious is definitely in my family's genes but I don't think it has anything to do with this activity. Did you I actually think it's more on my mom's side because we we love like looking up going for walks in the evening and looking in people's houses.

SPEAKER_05 27:14

Oh I love that too.

SPEAKER_03 27:15

It is great. Yeah did you um when you sat down with one of your dad's friends did you hear any like customer like crazy customer stories that he probably shared with you?

SPEAKER_01 27:26

So the he shared some crazy stories that were more about them the life on the boat right um I can only imagine.

SPEAKER_04 27:33

Did you ever go sailing and not you just thought you were out for a nice little sail.

SPEAKER_01 27:37

Well it made sense to me like why my dad was a really good sailor. I never thought about it. So we did have a a like a 26 foot sailboat growing up like dad they teach this in roofing school and like I remember at one point we were talking and my dad just mentioned that he had sailed to Florida once and this was when I was a teenager and I was like wait what? And then he just was quiet.

SPEAKER_03 27:57

And I just knew I was like this is so the things were hit.

SPEAKER_01 28:02

But you just also again like you just know when your parents aren't going to say anymore and you just know not to push. And that was it. And then thinking back on it and what was also like for me really um one of the more heartbreaking things to think back on with my dad is in his final days he was in the um ICU at Brigham and women's hospital in Boston and it's a great hospital but their ICU facility is just like a shitty room and it's you could see cinder it was like

Grief And Dad’s Prison Echoes

SPEAKER_01 28:28

cinder blocks. Oh and I remember my dad was like out and out of it he looked at it he was like what type of prison is this and I just looked at him and I was like dad like you never went to jail and he was just like even all of the crazy amount of like painkillers and drugs he was on he would knew then he was just like quiet. Oh wow but it was also terrifying to me that towards the end of his life he he thought he was back in jail yeah because of this yeah exactly yeah I mean just because I mean the facility itself while he was but now he's up there just token away I believe I don't know he didn't really do that he wasn't a user that's a he just wanted the money well no I think he did use a little bit but I think then like I also just think that like going to jail has I think it totally changed things for him right like after he got out I mean then him and my mom got married when he got out of prison I was born I think that just totally changes like how he lived his life too.

SPEAKER_03 29:19

I wonder if he was he will be like pro or con uh gummies oh I think he I don't think he'd really care either way. Because it's old the old school like yeah they're anti-gummies they are not really like they're like a good blonde well I so I I have a a friend separate from this whole thing who grows weed for distribution in Maine legally now and he says that gummies are basically like stripping out the qualities of the weed.

SPEAKER_01 29:46

So like you just have like that it's like almost like gummies are like the vodka of weed.

SPEAKER_03 29:50

It's just like kind of like flavorless like but if you want like we're still waiting for a moment to just get a gummy for me again.

SPEAKER_04 29:56

Yeah but you've never had a gummy me it just puts me to sleep that's what I feel like she's never tried marrow can I say that I just did no I'm not I'm not a like in her whole life she's never tried weed I don't I'm not a big fan of it um you get the coughs huh? I do get the coughs inhale if I'm really inhaling.

SPEAKER_01 30:17

I mean I can't handle it at all like if any of my friends are listening if they've seen me try to like your dad would be like smoking choice it's it's embarrassing I just like start like coughing everywhere it's I bought gummies when uh we were in COVID and I thought oh this will be great I mean I think I still have some love.

SPEAKER_04 30:34

I just they yeah but I I just I don't know I I'm like oh that'll be so cool and I'm just like I just didn't I just fall asleep like almost that's the thing it'd be like I'd be in bed by nine.

SPEAKER_01 30:45

Yeah which is great well at least it was great. I have a question if a movie was made about your dad who would play him oh my goodness good question that is a good question and I'm I love those I feel like I shouldn't be on this pop podcast because I'm so bad at pop culture well it doesn't have to be no yeah I mean it could be someone from 20 years ago or someone who's not even alive anymore. I would kind of like someone that my mom was gonna probably be no matter what I say I think she'll be like disappointed with my answer.

SPEAKER_02 31:21

I kind of think it needs to be someone who's like all American like good person like humorous I'm gonna I don't like humorous and good yeah what about sense of humor oh what about like a Matthew McConaughey or an Edward Norton he's a maybe he's a Boston Matt Damon Ben Affleck those are all your Boston guys maybe oh the the Boston piece no not he's like kind of you gravitated to Ed I think Ed Norton okay we'll say Ed Norton.

SPEAKER_01 31:50

Yeah yeah because he's like kind of a little unassuming yeah yeah yeah and that was kind of like he had a movie in which he played a drug role oh really remember when they had he had to open his mouth I think it was him and put like bite on to a curb a cement curb you remember yes I know that movie so that's your dad like that no no no no but he this was a far far less intense than that they were sailing into like resorty towns what about Marky Mark Ed I do like that my dad was much more like pre-casting the role Mark Wahlberg is far more like a hardcore tough guy image. So my dad was like a super sweet kind of Donnie Wahlberg with that little Donnie a little Donnie Wahlberg.

SPEAKER_02 32:38

Donnie Wahlberg I like Donnie well anyone actually you know maybe like a case they call him marshmallow I love a category are you good with that me again I'm good with all I didn't think of Ed of Captain she was she suggested Ed Norton I love Ed Norton I'm fine with it irony of it but I was just thinking of other Boston boys.

SPEAKER_01 32:58

Yeah let's go with let's go with Casey Affleck okay we do go because also my dad had curly balls I'm gonna wrap it up I just we just need to know sorry did you win the moth no oh yeah good point I mean we do have to like bring it home I actually did um I wanted to honor my dad's memory right so I didn't want to just get up on stage and wing it like I I I and this is a very complex long story. It's really not great for a five minute storytelling competition. So I spent a lot of time actually like writing this out and practiced it. And I got up on stage and was obviously nervous and I came in second place.

SPEAKER_04 33:34

Well that's pretty good.

SPEAKER_01 33:35

I mean out of how many people three um so they pick I think they picked about I think it's 10 people go. So when you go there you put your name into a hat and they pick your name out of a hat. So you actually don't know if you'll get picked or not. So I came in second but what I was so pissed about is the winner is kind of like a professional storyteller and he had won a previous month's competition.

SPEAKER_04 33:55

Oh so he shouldn't be allowed to win I know are you familiar with our slip it in and pull it out policy or programming you might want to throw him in there that sounds like a bullet out to me.

SPEAKER_03 34:06

No but he he was a great storyteller like he he was so he deserved it he kind of I well no I deserve to win he was still he was a very good storyteller but I still deserve to win yeah I love that I love that well Molly like we've I personally I'm just speaking for myself like I'm blown away by this story. Like I don't think that we really sat down and discussed it. And I I think that this has a part two and part three like it's just like a kid will have to be a return guess with this rolling in that year in prison. Yeah in yeah can we bring can we pull the diary transcripts for the three of us well I'm gonna go home to Massachusetts in a few in a month or so I could I could uh break them like yeah and you said one of the things that you mentioned here is that you wish that your dad would have been here now and I this episode is dropping after Father's Day and the fact that you're able to bring that in and it kind of makes me emotional.

SPEAKER_01 35:06

I lost my dad as well you know and you being able to tell that story I mean I think that your dad's memory lives on he was a baddie and I I you know I I appreciate you bringing that in for sure it really fills my heart well and if anything what I'd love for my dad's legacy to be is not just he yes he is a baddie but he's also an incredibly generous kind funny and someone who would always want everyone around him to be very comfortable. So he was if anything like a Maha he was just a lovely um a really great person.

SPEAKER_04 35:43

Love it I'm gonna share your story I'm gonna share your story with my dad and ask him what that what did he do? You sold insurance so what what were you doing dad?

SPEAKER_03 35:56

Did I use that word appropriately JJ Maha 100% oh that's like that's how I think of him that's a Spanish it's like a very like proud and like very like I don't know like glorious type of

Trader Joe’s Vitamin C Serum Dupe

SPEAKER_03 36:08

thing.

SPEAKER_02 36:08

Yeah and when I I don't I remember when I describe I got goosebumps because Maha was the uh powder that my mom used to use I thought it was fish no not at all so we went from we to another product we have a product coming out we do we do and let me tell you guys this is the product of all products so Molly and I besides the fact that she's a math stalker we also know each other from a beer group that I used to be involved in and I had originally met her husband when I was part of the Detroit Drunken Historical Society. With the poop emoji custom I guess no but I organized a pub crawl of Detroit's historic pubs and on the bus on the way to the pub crawl this guy pops up in the seat in front of me and says hi I'm Samir. I'm like hi and from that moment on we were friends.

SPEAKER_03 37:06

Okay and then a few years later here comes Molly.

SPEAKER_02 37:10

But anyway we are part of this kind of group of girls who still get together for happy hours that all kind of originated and stemmed from this beer group that we were all in trying to get an invite for that. Yes so as trying to get a what? An invite oh it's I think she led to the girls group well but we we support the gays and the gays are allowed. Anyway we often share lots of tips beauty tips product tips etc so one tip that everyone's been talking about for years is skin pseudal CE frulic serum this is like the godsend supposedly to your skin I've wanted to try it I've been meaning to try it but it's $185 and it just seems crazy. But the patent just ran out on it. As soon as that patent ran out you better believe in our text thread hey has anyone heard of any dupes that have come out um no dupes to be had until recently thank you Trader Joe's here they come Trader Joe's came out with Trader Joe's vitamin Camera Trader Joe's so let me tell you beauty dupe the skin suiticals patent ran out the uh Trader Joe's vitamin C serum comes out they have all the exact same blend of ingredients it's 15% al asorbic acid which is vitamin C 1% vitamin E and 0.5% ferrylic acid all of these together are designed to boost stability and antioxidant protection. You should be using vitamin C on your skin wasn't this in the thread when there's a product we just like well but I'm telling you every morning everyone should be using vitamin C. It targets your fine lines your wrinkles discoloration and environmental damage. So Trader Joe's this dupe 999 as soon as it came out literally that week I went there it's been out I think maybe a month at most around that I went there a couple days ago seen there's no it's nowhere to be had it is sold out everywhere.

SPEAKER_03 39:23

I got it immediately the first day which actually came up as a surprise for me when when you came up with the product I'm like I've had it on my shelf yes for a week or two. So I was already in it.

SPEAKER_02 39:34

So it costs a fraction of skin suiticals it's a great option for anyone who doesn't think you know and it feels very fresh and like yeah well so Maddie has taken some issue with it.

SPEAKER_04 39:47

I don't take there he comes hey I'm a I there's storytelling Maddie first of all that little story about this product could be a moth could be a moth oh you want me to go to the moth you could moth it up if the if the category is product reinvention bargain hunter dupes well I think needs a better story right oh or not or maybe not okay maybe less ingredients touche maybe less ingredients lean in on the beer group more okay but what I'll say is when I put it on for the first time literally it smells to me like I am filleting salmon like it smells like Alaskan salmon on my face.

SPEAKER_02 40:37

Yeah I know you guys don't feel the same I don't want it has a different smell which I will say all the different vitamin C serums you use can have a little bit of a smell I've been using the Sunday Riley uh vitamin C serum every morning I've now switched to the Trader Joe's and they all have a little slight different smell I don't smell salmon I smell something that's not it goes away but it goes away quick it does some people say beer it smells kind of like I do want to complete my review of it to say that because I it's not it's not all bad.

SPEAKER_04 41:16

I do I do actually I have it on now you're glowing thank you you really are yeah I was working in the yard later I really do it's the serum this is what happens Molly it is probably the serum I do really like it the way it looks I fe it feels like it's tightening my face I feel tight I love that I'm gonna try it in other places I might have to edit that well this is my so I I don't like it going on I like it settling in.

SPEAKER_02 41:52

Okay and I will buy it when mine's up thank you for the gift like to your point Megan like $9.99 for a product I just 185 the same exact ingredient they're literally the same did you really hold the ingredient list side by side and you can let me tell you there are TikToks there's Instagram posts I mean this is like a phenomenon people have been waiting and waiting for the dupes that are now traded Joe's came in immediately able to make a profit at 999. So these people that were selling it for 180 wow they were like living they were like taking us to that they were sailing to Columbia to San Martin that's like a much higher as soon as our Link Tree was created I put this skin suitable serum on because I intended to buy it and try it and then I just never got to that point because when my Sunday Riley ran out I was going to buy it but that's when that patent expired I'm like oh I'm gonna kind of wait and see what dupes come out and lo and behold my favorite market around Trader Joe's like lived up to the hype.

SPEAKER_03 43:07

I just always got that notification like I hate skin seuticals.

SPEAKER_02 43:11

Yeah but I will say um there is one different ingredient between the two but it's it's it's an emulsifier it's not an active ingredient it's not part of anything so the main patented blend that has to do with fighting the wrinkles and uh making your skin glow and the antioxidation on your face all of that is in the Trader Joe's version. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 43:36

So run to your Trader Joe's gets what do you think of it that product and I liked it. You liked it? I mean I know JJ is a big Trader Joe's fan as he often references on the pod. So I think I'll pick it up the next time I'm there. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 43:49

Yeah sounds

Slip It In Summer Porch Weather

SPEAKER_04 43:50

good.

SPEAKER_03 43:50

Are you guys ready for a slipping in are you ready, Molly?

SPEAKER_04 43:53

We're gonna as our guest you are the honor guest give you the honors go for it

SPEAKER_01 44:00

I'll gonna start positive. So I think in honor of the origin story of the moth, it's finally, I feel like summer porch weather season. So my slip it in is summer porch weather. My mom is visiting, so she was having her coffee on the porch this morning. And then even just like it's nice to hang out on the porch with friends, have a glass of wine in the evening. So that for me is summer has arrived when I'm finally we've been waiting for it.

SPEAKER_04 44:26

Is it house porches or like patios as well? Are we is it all together? Or are you saying, like, I love like getting my morning coffee and being out of the house.

SPEAKER_01 44:36

I love at my house or a friend's house. I actually have some other friends who live in Ferndale as well. And they um we have like porch wine. So we have a porch wine text, and sometimes we'll like me on different porches. Have you gotten that text?

SPEAKER_04 44:50

No, you haven't. Do you walk by their houses at odd times of the evening?

SPEAKER_01 44:54

I'm invited over the houses.

SPEAKER_02 44:56

Oh, so maybe I don't have to stock them. I would like to be on this porch wine text because I'm sometimes in the Ferndale area. All right, Megan. Megan can be at it. Oh, I love it.

SPEAKER_04 45:08

You know what? Ferndale has a porch every event. They have like a concert. Yeah, bands. You can voluntarily sign up and a band can come and play off your porch. Oh, I love that. Which I think is a great idea.

SPEAKER_03 45:21

A good way. I mean, I was talking today about it with my friends. It's like, but this I often say it's like, oh, you got what are you doing in Michigan? Like, and I'm like, summers in Michigan are like one of the best. They are.

SPEAKER_02 45:35

It is a great place for a summer.

SPEAKER_04 45:38

Okay, now give us your shitty stuff.

SPEAKER_01 45:40

My uh slip out is very specific. And um not to say I'm looking at it.

SPEAKER_04 45:45

You say slip it out?

SPEAKER_01 45:46

Slip it out.

SPEAKER_04 45:47

Slip it in.

SPEAKER_01 45:48

Sorry, pull it out, pull it out. It's okay. I I I'm sorry. No, no, no, you're good. Being recorded is a little nerve-wracking. Um, I know that you all are fans of Costco. Oh, yes. So, and I know that Costco also does a lot of local source, like not local sourcing, but like the each individual Costco like customizes their inventory. So I'm hoping that this pull it out will inspire the Costco or local Costco to change their stocking. I would really like there to be a shelf stable unflavored soy milk at the regular Costco. They have it at the business center, but they don't have it at the regular Costco. Oh, it makes sense that they would have it at the business center flavored.

SPEAKER_03 46:30

Oh, you got it on the pod. We talked about it on the pod. There is business center Costco and just a regular Costco.

SPEAKER_04 46:38

There's one, um, there's one down eight mile.

SPEAKER_01 46:40

Yeah, the business center is like catered to like if you're like stocking your office of like stacks, right? Stock it. Stocking. Or like you um run a catering business or something. Okay, all right. And then but there's no like clothing or other stuff at the business like business center is like all is clothing optional? Well, oh gross.

SPEAKER_03 47:02

I don't want to go to my Costco with fat shit going on.

SPEAKER_01 47:05

Yeah, so yeah, I think people have a Costco.

SPEAKER_03 47:09

Because I am a big fan of on-flavor.

SPEAKER_01 47:11

Soy milk. I don't want vanilla soy milk. I agree. That makes sense. Vanilla soy milk is gross. Especially I don't want six cartons.

SPEAKER_02 47:17

Do you know what I don't like that either? I support that. Costco, you need to change. Especially when down the street at the business center, it's there. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 47:26

I have a Costco adjacent pull it out too, which is really weird. We didn't plan that.

SPEAKER_03 47:30

I have an adjacent to her slip it ends. Oh. So do you want to go first?

SPEAKER_04 47:37

Um, why don't

Rooftops Beer Fest And Regrets

SPEAKER_04 47:38

you go first?

SPEAKER_03 47:38

So my slip it in is really with the summer rooftops and patios. You cannot mention patios. Um, we were downtown Detroit a couple weeks ago. The Hudson's rooftop is open.

SPEAKER_02 47:51

I know. I'm dying to go.

SPEAKER_03 47:53

The views, like we already had um a group of friends. We have a reservation where cannot wait to go to the roof.

SPEAKER_04 47:59

Pine Hall. I was in line for that uh Thursday night, the night it opened. I was down there with friends.

SPEAKER_03 48:06

That's insane. Because they don't have any reservation to go.

SPEAKER_04 48:09

Yeah. Well, they yes, you have to do that.

SPEAKER_03 48:11

You cannot go into res like reci or anything like that, open table or anything like that. Yeah, there's none of that. But rooftops and patios, it's there's nothing like it.

SPEAKER_00 48:20

So good.

SPEAKER_03 48:21

Um, yeah, it's I'm I'm from a porch to a patio to a rooftub, the sun is out, Roses, espresso martinis, summer, Michigan summer is here. Yeah, my pull it out goes back way back to when I met Molly and her husband.

SPEAKER_02 48:41

You know what?

SPEAKER_04 48:42

I think you might have dropped a clue about this early, like 20 minutes ago. Probably 20 minutes ago.

SPEAKER_03 48:48

It's like a winter beer fest in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Till this day, probably the worst hangover I've ever had in my entire adult life.

SPEAKER_01 49:00

I was incredibly hungover because we went into a steam room after drinking all day.

SPEAKER_03 49:05

With wine in our hands. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 49:06

We decided to like cook our bodies further.

SPEAKER_03 49:08

Yes. Yeah. We were in our underwear in the hot tub. So yeah, it wasn't there. It was it's a mixed feelings because we were meeting for the first time.

SPEAKER_01 49:19

We bunded amazing overalls on.

SPEAKER_04 49:22

And didn't your husband have the poop shirt on? Which is what did the poop full on like costume?

SPEAKER_00 49:28

Oh shot off. It was a full cost emoji. So he was the poop. The poop emoji custom. His face came out of it.

SPEAKER_03 49:38

Wow. Wasn't it a hot day? That was a winter beer fest.

SPEAKER_02 49:43

It was put on there, clearly. It was put on by the Michigan Brewers Guild. They put on a winter and a summer beer fest. They also have a spring and a fall, which is in Detroit.

SPEAKER_03 49:55

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 49:56

Um, so that one's the one in the winter. It's outside all day.

SPEAKER_03 50:00

I've never had a hangover like that.

SPEAKER_01 50:02

It was it was awful.

SPEAKER_02 50:03

We left early and went to the JW Marriott and pulled it up and saunted it up and steam roomed it. It was crazy.

SPEAKER_03 50:10

And the next day we had to check out and go to brunch. Yes. So Samir and I didn't want to make it. We didn't make brunch. Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 50:19

Yes, you did. You were there. No, we did not. We we got an Airbnb because we're too cheap to pay for JW Marriott. And um, it was, I just I get a special code.

SPEAKER_04 50:29

Didn't your dad leave you a bunch of money?

SPEAKER_00 50:32

No. Maybe it's buried in the backyard.

SPEAKER_04 50:36

You might want to go to your library and get a metal detector and check that back up. Oh, there we go.

SPEAKER_02 50:43

Wow, I love it.

SPEAKER_04 50:44

Megan and Maddie, who's Megan, why don't you go? I'll close this out today.

SPEAKER_02 50:47

All right. Okay. Uh keeping with the summer theme, I've been eating a little more fruit these days. And my slip it in is pink pineapple. I love pink pineapple. I never had pink pineapple. If you see it, you have to buy it. It tastes like a pineapple, but it doesn't have that kind of like sometimes there's like that little sourness of a pineapple. It doesn't have it's like the same taste, but just smooth and easy.

SPEAKER_03 51:15

I love one of my favorite.

SPEAKER_04 51:18

So I'll have to try to pick up.

SPEAKER_03 51:19

Pineapple is your favorite. One of the favorite. I love it. And it helps with your nuts, if you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_02 51:25

Uh it always like flavoring.

SPEAKER_04 51:31

You don't know this. Well, I think I just got it. Right.

SPEAKER_02 51:35

You're supposed to eat a lot of pineapples if you're a man.

unknown 51:39

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 51:40

It might help you get a little something.

SPEAKER_03 51:43

It will help you with this nuts.

SPEAKER_02 51:47

All right. My pull it out. I'm keeping with the fruit theme, and it's a honey don't. Not a honeydew. If you get what I'm saying. Honeydew, I do not like the honeydew. It's a don't. I like honey. I don't like it. I like a cantaloupe. I don't like the honeydew.

SPEAKER_04 52:03

Oh, that's isn't it called also muss melon?

SPEAKER_02 52:06

No, must melon. I like it. It's the green. The green melon. It's kind of boring. It just has a law to I don't like it. I like regular melon. It's the Brazil nuts of fruit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:16

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 52:19

It is. I hate it when they put it in. And part of what got me on this fruit topic is I had fruit kebabs. And I thought it was a watermelon and was surprised with the pink pineapple. Don't get me and then next to it was on these kebabs, there was like five honeydews. One pink pineapple, one regular pineapple, one strawberry, one cantaloupe, slash mussmel.

SPEAKER_04 52:44

Well, it's a pool. One note taker.

SPEAKER_02 52:47

She was like, but like, yes, the filler, to your point, the filler fruit. No one wants it.

SPEAKER_04 52:52

I'm going to start with my pull it out. And that is Costco adjacent.

Costco Line Rage And The Cobbler

SPEAKER_04 52:58

Oh. So I first of all, part of this is my own fault because I shouldn't go to a Costco on a Sunday and think that I'm going to be able to get in and get out real quickly. But I get into the membership line because I got my 2% check cash back and I didn't get enough to like justify the executive membership. So they they'll they'll make that right with you. So I had the check, and I'm like, I'm just gonna wait in line. This woman is getting a new membership, and she is asking every question under the sun, which I'm patient about. Yeah. Hear me out. I'm patient about because, like, if you're gonna sign up for a membership, ask your questions. Totally fine. But I mean, she should also be aware that there's four people beh I'm fourth in line. Four people behind her. Okay, fine. They're all set. Then what she does is ask, well, can I ask you, like, how does one maybe get apply for a job here?

SPEAKER_03 54:04

No. That is, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 54:07

That's insane. In my mind and like lady, like, move on. Come on. And and the and the cashier, the lady behind the thing, so sweet and nice. Just you gotta just keep getting on, just checking the sites, keep going in. Then she's asking my questions. Literally, this woman, when she was done, she went around the side and hugged the Costco lady. What?

SPEAKER_01 54:30

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 54:31

She did a side hug, a side American hug.

SPEAKER_01 54:34

Were the other line people getting annoyed too? Were you guys making faces?

SPEAKER_04 54:37

I don't know. I was seeing so much red. I couldn't, I didn't know what was happening around me.

SPEAKER_02 54:42

Well, you know, Costco is traditionally is like a top employer. Like they pay really, really high wages, they offer healthcare.

SPEAKER_04 54:49

Well, don't hire this woman.

SPEAKER_02 54:50

This CEO is very much like forward thinking in that you get better employees and people want Costco jobs and they don't leave them. They get hired and stay there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 55:02

Okay, my slip it in. I'm gonna start with a question.

SPEAKER_05 55:06

Oh god.

SPEAKER_04 55:07

JJ, this is for you. When I say the word cobbler, what how would you define a cobbler?

SPEAKER_03 55:17

A cobbler?

SPEAKER_04 55:18

A cobbler. It's a dessert. Okay. And Molly, what would you call a cobbler?

SPEAKER_01 55:24

So it's funny when you said how would you define a cobbler? Initially I was thinking of the dessert, but then when you said it that way, I thought of someone who fixes shoes.

SPEAKER_04 55:33

That's my slipping in, isn't it? Oh my gosh. Megan? Did you know this, JJ? Did you know a cobbler is somebody who fixes shoes? No. Molly, even though you know this to be true, do you take your shoes? Would you ever say in 2026 I'm taking my shoes to the cobbler?

SPEAKER_01 55:54

Actually, I will say earlier today, no joke. My husband and I were talking about that he had to take his shoes to the cobbler. On nine miles.

SPEAKER_02 56:04

Did you go to the guy on nine miles? Um, I just went to him last week.

SPEAKER_01 56:07

We were driving through Royal Oak and he said something about like the cobbler.

SPEAKER_04 56:11

You used the word cobbler?

SPEAKER_01 56:13

Yes. See, that's how you refer to that. Honestly, came up in conversation today.

SPEAKER_04 56:17

That is crazy.

SPEAKER_01 56:18

Because I would not say it's a daily topic.

SPEAKER_04 56:23

Well, I it is a slip it in, Megan. So I just when Megan was telling me, she's like, Oh, I went to the cobbler and I got my shoe.

SPEAKER_01 56:30

There is a cobbler right next to Western Market that I've brought shoes. I just went there last time. So have I. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 56:35

So have I. But I just at one point in the story I just smiled and she's like, What are you smiling about? And I'm like, I just love that you're I mean, like, I think in 2026 we call it a shoe or bear. She's like, What do you mean? She's like, It's always been a cobbler. And I'm like, it has been, but like, I think it's evolved.

SPEAKER_01 56:52

I guess I've never thought about that.

SPEAKER_04 56:53

I guess I get called out all the time because I'm like, oh, I'm at home watching a program. And someone would be like, why don't you call it a program? We're going to get a cobbler.

SPEAKER_03 57:03

Like I, Maddie's stepmom makes my favorite dessert ever a blueberry or peach cobbler. I would eat that fucker like for weeks.

SPEAKER_04 57:14

Well, from here on out, anytime I get my shoes repaired, I'm going with a cobbler.

SPEAKER_02 57:19

So why say shoe repair?

SPEAKER_01 57:20

It's a lot more to say than cobbler. We should ask the people at the shoe repair or cobbler what they prefer.

SPEAKER_04 57:27

Maybe.

SPEAKER_01 57:28

The guy is kind of weird.

SPEAKER_04 57:31

I'm like, good luck with that guy.

SPEAKER_01 57:33

Okay. I don't want to ask him actually.

SPEAKER_02 57:34

He's like weird. Let me tell you, I went in. I said I'll come back next week. Oh, can you come back later today? Are you working? Yeah. And he had them done that day. So I support it.

SPEAKER_04 57:47

But he insisted you come back.

SPEAKER_02 57:49

Well, and then he also he was a little high on the price, but he said, because I had very fancy. For a cobbler. Yeah. Said they were fancy shoes.

SPEAKER_03 57:56

He was he was a little high on the weed, but no.

SPEAKER_01 57:59

Well, I don't know. He was actually a little judgy of my shoes. That I like shouldn't get them fixed. The cobblers will do that too.

SPEAKER_04 58:07

I've been in there. They've done that to me before.

SPEAKER_02 58:13

All right.

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SPEAKER_02 58:14

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